She looks like she belongs in ancient Egypt

[Poitier]

Also, why would you compare an ANCIENT kingdom to MIDDLE AGES kingdoms?

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Being obsessed with civilizations built on the backs of slaves and incest ravaged monarchies brehs

jews still MAD!

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Except the DNA of the mummies and the Chadic and Niger-Congo components in Ancient Egyptian?

Are you referring to the R1B variant? Individuals in Western Asia also have this R1B variant haplogroup too.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Also, why would you compare an ANCIENT kingdom to MIDDLE AGES kingdoms?

"Middle Ages" are such a eurocentric concept!

I'm not comparing the two. I've just stated that African-Americans should shift their focus to the places of their ancestry. Although, Ancient Egyptian history is important to the African story of humanity.

I worry that African-Americans are internalizing European praise of Ancient Egyptian history while forgetting that civilizations too, arose in the environments of West and Central Africa.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Can you post evidence suggesting links between Ancient Egyptians and Hausas?

Read me again. I said LIKE the Hausa's the Ancient Egyptians first spoke a Nile-Saharan language before speaking an Afro-Asiatic language. Both AE and Hausa's who were/are Nilotics. Not suggesting Hausa's and AE's had a link.

Evidence that backs me up:

Manchester University Programme Dr. Alain Anselin (University of Antilles-Guyane 2009) Some notes about an early African pool of cultures from which emerged Egyptian civilization.
Using primarily linguistic evidence, and taking into account recent archaeology at sites such as Hierakonpolis/Nekhen, as well as the symbolicmeaning of objects such as sceptres and headrests in Ancient Egyptian and contemporary African cultures, this paper traces the geographical location and movements of early peoples in and around the Nile Valley. It is possible from this overview of the data to conclude that the limited conceptual vocabulary shared by the ancestors of contemporary Chadic-speakers (therefore also contemporary Cushytic-speakers), contemporary Nilotic-speakers and Ancient Egyptian-speakers suggests that the earliest speakers of the Egyptian language could be located to the south of Upper Egypt or, earlier, in the Sahara. The marked grammatical and lexicographic affinities of Ancient Egyptian with Chadic are well-known, and consistent Nilotic cultural, religious and political patterns are detectable in the formation of the first Egyptian kingships. The question these data raise is the articulation between the languages and the cultural patterns of this pool of ancient African societies from which emerged Predynastic Egypt.

I wasn't suggesting a link with AE and Hausa's. But is is possible that Hausa's came from the Nile Valley since Nilotics originate there(there are some in academia that suggest some Nilotic speakers went west-ward and encountered AA and Niger-Congo speakers) and Hausa's themselves have oral tradition saying they came from the East.

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Except the DNA of the mummies and the Chadic and Niger-Congo components in Ancient Egyptian?

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Everything, I'm an expert on everything, everything sucks, play the next song


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[Bawon Samedi]

Except the DNA of the mummies and the Chadic and Niger-Congo components in Ancient Egyptian?

But that doesn't mean AA's themselves descend from Ancient Egyptians. But only means AA's show AFFINITY towards some Egyptians.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Read me again. I said LIKE the Hausa's the Ancient Egyptians first spoke a Nile-Saharan language before speaking an Afro-Asiatic language. Both AE and Hausa's who were/are Nilotics. Not suggesting Hausa's and AE's had a link.

Evidence that backs me up:


I wasn't suggesting a link with AE and Hausa's. But is is possible that Hausa's came from the Nile Valley since Nilotics originate there(there are some in academia that suggest some Nilotic speakers went west-ward and encountered AA and Niger-Congo speakers) and Hausa's themselves have oral tradition saying they came from the East.

Interesting theory. I see nothing wrong with Ancient Egyptians merely being Afro-Asiatic though. Proud African cultures are Afro-Asiatic like Berbers, Amharas, Tigrays, Oromos etc. This doesn't diminish their "African-ness" because it is likely that language family originated in Africa.

 

[Poitier]

But that doesn't mean AA's themselves descend from Ancient Egyptians. But only means AA's show AFFINITY towards some Egyptians.

I mean we are talking 5000-7000 years ago...who DIRECTLY descends from them that hasn't been heavily mixed?

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

How many "Afrocentrists" go on the Coli comparing past achievements of diaspora Black people to Benin, Songhai or Ghana?

I fear we may have culturally neglected narratives of West Africa because of the dominance of European based discourse in our OWN culture.

*Afrocentrists in quotations being a critique of the term, not those who love African culture, history, politics etc.

 

[DaddyFresh]

You don't have to. It's there in plain English for everyone else to see.

The ancient Egyptians, like their modern descendants, were of varying complexions of color, from the light Mediterranean type (like Nefertiti), to the light brown of Middle Egypt, to the darker brown of Upper Egypt

 

[Poitier]

"Middle Ages" are such a eurocentric concept!

I'm not comparing the two. I've just stated that African-Americans should shift their focus to the places of their ancestry. Although, Ancient Egyptian history is important to the African story of humanity.

I worry that African-Americans are internalizing European praise of Ancient Egyptian history while forgetting that civilizations too, arose in the environments of West and Central Africa.

I read a lot about those but the lack of artifacts, writings, monuments etc make it hard

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Interesting theory. I see nothing wrong with Ancient Egyptians merely being Afro-Asiatic though. Proud African cultures are Afro-Asiatic like Berbers, Amharas, Tigrays, Oromos etc. This doesn't diminish their "African-ness" because it is likely that language family originated in Africa.

Thanks.
I don't get how proud African cultures can only Afro-Asiatic? The Zulu's were the proudest Africans and they were no where near Afro-Asiatic.

The Ancient Egyptians were a combo of Nile Saharans(primarily)/Afro-Asiatic and to an extent Niger-Congo. And yeah AA originated in Africa.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I read a lot about those but the lack of artifacts, writings, monuments etc make it hard

Fair. I think a lot of scholarship can still occur, but you're right about the degradation of artifacts there compared to Egypt.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

You seem to never cite what you quote. Are you trolling or what?

Not that it matters; here's a recent 2013 study that destroys your uncited quote:

Ancient Egyptians cluster closer to inner Africans and even AA's than modern Egyptians, Europeans or West Asians.

Stop trolling.