Shannon Sharpe and Ray Lewis Going At It On Undisputed Right Now Over Kap

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A man chooses to silently protest the injustices we've all witnessed on the news and some in person...now he can't get a job, and it's all by design... Yet the debate is HOW he did it. Really?... How do you make it about some symbol of freedome when actual lives have been lost thru negligence?

These clowns are going to be on the wrong side of history when we look back at this.

It's such a moronic debate.
Classic white people deflection tactic
 

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Obviously if your a white gm who doesnt care about unarmed black people being killed at the hands of police,you shouldnt sign Colin:mjpls:....I dont think Colin would want to sign to anybody who would make him promise not to do it again,and he seems upstanding like he wouldnt lie.

but on that note,just dont get up there like Ray acting like "winning" is the most important thing here.....the mediator chick had to step in at the end and dead all that shyt Ray was talking about,by pointing out that even the owner Ray is defending bought up fans and sponsors and other shyt....so it AINT just about winning.

the owner is being a white man who like they said,doesnt care and doesnt have to care about black people being killed by police if they dont play for him.....If your his player,hopefully you just see where he stands....he dont care about black people who dont make him money,he doesnt care about the people of baltimore if you not buying tickets.. Maybe black Ravens fans should boycott and voice your displeasure,if its all about money hurt this owner only way he understands.
lol...well for me personally...I don't care if they (the GM and Owner) care....I see football for what it is....football...outside of any outrageous remarks...I simply don't care about their opinions on the matter....and I don't need the NFL to be an event to hold a discussion on police brutality...the stock market or the next space mission. I don't need the coach and the GM to agree or weigh in on anything....I'm not watching it for that or to hear their opinions on it. I just want to watch football for heavens sake lol.

If Kaep doesn't want to sign for personal reasons...more power to him. But I don't think the NFL ever intended their platform and air time to be used as a springboard for this type of discussion and I think that is where the problem is in their eyes.
 

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outside of nascar, football (college in particular) is more closely associated with a southern brand of conservatism than any other sport. don't be shocked that the NFL is filled with black people saying things and behaving in a manner that you're going to think is c00nish. from pee wee to high school they are in close contact with and being influence by right wing rednecks, then they are passed on to the right wing rednecks in college who make sure that they are surrounded by the "right" kind of white people and showered with cac bytches who are sometimes members of sororities that wouldn't admit black girls. they make connections with right wing boosters who are going to keep them close as long as they are performing for the old alma mater. if they're lucky they make it to the NFL and their "owner" is a prominent right wing donor who uses the power of the purse to keep his niggras inline. if they don't make it and were good niggras they can hit up those booster connections they made in college for a job. a lot of them have just been trained and conditioned and can't help it.

ray lews, michael vick, etc. they didn't like the feeling of being out in the cold so they'll do whatever is necessary to feel the warmth of massa's house.
Case in point where the Texans, Patriots, Rams, and Jerry Jones all donated to Trump's inaugural committee.

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As much of a money making juggernaut the NFL is, why do people never question how a team signing Kap would hurt their pockets?? It may actually be the flimsiest excuse I've heard next to his playing ability.

Like games aren't gonna be sold out or promoted (hence ad revenue not being in jeopardy) because people signed Kap.

A bunch of pissed off racists are not gonna effect the bottom line. Its like around here locally when businesses and animal rights fanatics went apeshyt when the Eagles signed Vick. It was all bluster, none of it effected them monetarily. They have a waiting list in the thousands for season tickets.
 

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Kaep already said that he won't protest again.
I know...but if youre a team that's going to bring him in, on your roster, and take the risk....

You have to ask yourself....what if he decides to kneel again on national TV?

It would be a major public relations nightmare for that team and the league. It's something that they have to keep in mind.
 

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I know...but if youre a team that's going to bring him in, on your roster, and take the risk....

You have to ask yourself....what if he decides to kneel again on national TV?

It would be a major public relations nightmare for that team and the league. It's something that they have to keep in mind.
What risk??

He flat out said that he won't protest again. If he does then HIS image and word is tarnished.
 

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lol...well for me personally...I don't care if they (the GM and Owner) care....I see football for what it is....football...outside of any outrageous remarks...I simply don't care about their opinions on the matter....and I don't need the NFL to be an event to hold a discussion on police brutality...the stock market or the next space mission. I don't need the coach and the GM to agree or weigh in on anything....I'm not watching it for that or to hear their opinions on it. I just want to watch football for heavens sake lol.

If Kaep doesn't want to sign for personal reasons...more power to him. But I don't think the NFL ever intended their platform and air time to be used as a springboard for this type of discussion and I think that is where the problem is in their eyes.
So don't have empathy for humans basically?
 

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Come on, Kaep was on his way out the door anyways, so it doesn't matter what he did that year.

And are you 100 percent sure about money being made up from losing POTENTIAL season ticket holders AND sponsors pulling out??

I know Kaep in the locker room isn't the problem. It's the threat of the team losing money because of him.

:heh: What sponsors are bailing on a team that signs him, some local car wash? Any major sponsor can't do that. Mercedes for example isn't backing away from because there'd be a huge controversy and they'd face boycotts. It would be a PR nightmare. Don't think that there aren't a tremendous amount of people who support Kap and they'll be all over these companies. He's not a criminal so sponsors can stay where they are with no backlash.

Stop believing that bs that these owners are feeding you. Their profits will not be negatively impacted.

What did the Cowboys lose when they signed Greg Hardy?

What did the Eagles lose when they signed Vick?

What did the Giants lose in that fiasco that exposed that they had a habitual wife beater on the team?

Let you tell it the stadium will be half empty because Kap is the back up:comeon:
 

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What risk??

He flat out said that he won't protest again. If he does then HIS image and word is tarnished.
The risk would be the reaction from the fans who demanded that he not be there in the first place, but decided to bite the bullet on it.

His word could cost millions if he decided to go back on it especially is advertisers, sponsors and fans fought against it.

I know to you his "word" is good enough, to the marketing experts in the league, it might not be.

As for his image...it really wouldn't be any different from what it is now. If anything, to many of those who support him, he would be seen as a national hero for still not conforming despite everything that he's been through.
 

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So don't have empathy for humans basically?
I don't care if they do or don't :yeshrug:

I'm not watching football for them to talk about it.

I get that some people need the NFL/NBA etc to be a platform to discuss these things...I just don't.

I guess that's just me.
 

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The risk would be the reaction from the fans who demanded that he not be there in the first place, but decided to bite the bullet on it.

His word could cost millions if he decided to go back on it especially is advertisers, sponsors and fans fought against it.

I know to you his "word" is good enough, to the marketing experts in the league, it might not be.

As for his image...it really wouldn't be any different from what it is now. If anything, to many of those who support him, he would be seen as a national hero for still not conforming despite everything that he's been through.
Reaction from the racist fans who are the only ones that have a problem with a man kneeling because innocent black men and women are being murdered. Kap should've been just a good boy huh?
 

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A man chooses to silently protest the injustices we've all witnessed on the news and some in person...now he can't get a job, and it's all by design... Yet the debate is HOW he did it. Really?... How do you make it about some symbol of freedome when actual lives have been lost thru negligence?

These clowns are going to be on the wrong side of history when we look back at this.

It's such a moronic debate.
If white supremacy were to be eradicated tomorrow, I dont think a large majority of brothers would even know what to do with themselves!
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seriously...

how the hell you put a spin on police brutality against people of color?

shyt, how do you put a spin on police brutality PERIOD!!!!!????!!!!!
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