Shaduer’s NFL Projection makes no sense

Braman

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I honestly think Shaduer goes maybe 2nd round. I get the vibe most QB-needy teams are not really looking at this year to go QB. I can see some trade downs happening and maybe from there gets drafted.

Exactly. We’ve seen this plenty times before.

Will Levis and Malik Willis immediately come to mind. Media and fans had them as surefire top 10 picks the year before, the offseason, during the year, and even into the the draft process. Scouts just sat back quiet, knowing they weren’t close to that. Then people get ‘surprised’ on draft day

I’d be shocked if Shaduer’s stock isn’t corrected the same way. And I can’t wait until Chris Simms digs into that tape and ranks him as the 5th best QB in the class and people who’ve never seen a all-22 go apeshyt :heh:
 

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Some of this is opinion but I’m gonna stick to mostly numbers. QBR is dope bc you can’t juke the stats. It’s largely independent of your supporting cast being elite/subpar. Shaduer has a 77 QBR. 16th in the nation. Last year he was at 63. Good for 57th….

I browsed the last 10 years. 1) No #1 pick had a QBR under 85. 2) No more then 2 or 3 first round QBs under 80. 3) Most if not all eventual NFL QBs put together 2 good years QBR-wise. None had a season as low as 63.

For comparison sake, Top QBR this year: Cam Ward- 88. 2023: #1 Jaden Daniels 95.7. #2 Bo Nix 91. 2022 top 5 QBR: Jaden Daniels, Hendon hooker, CJ Stroud, Bo Nix, Caleb. Notable final year QBR recent QBs:

Stroud (jr year) 91
Bryce young-87
Mac jones- 96
Fields- 91
Aidan Occonell- 84
Matt coral- 88
Zach Wilson- 88
Kyle Trask- 88
Burrow- 94
Tua- 94
Hurts- 90
Lawrence-87
Kyler-95
Haskins- 84
Drew Lock-82
Baker mayfield-91
Darnold- 86
Lamar- 84
Watson- 84
Mahomes- 83
Blake Bortles- 79
Drake Maye- 77

Included eventual busts just to hammer home that even busts passed the threshold of college QBR. The takeaway isnt that if you have a high college QBR you’re gonna be a high level NFL QBR. It’s that if you’re a high level NFL QB—-you absolutely had a high college QBR. And if you didn’t—-say Mahomes or Maye—-you are an upside projection with rare arm talent or athleticism. Shaduer has neither. Shaduer is a pocket passer withOUT rare arm talent. So his comp should be with recent pocket passers in this vein; Dwayne Haskins, Mac jones, Teddy bridgewater, etc. All projected as first round talent sure but not #1 picks, and barely top 10 if that

But I would be surprised if scouts don’t level set. It may seem like a debate now, but once they put on the tape Cam Ward is absolutely going first. And don’t be suprised if teams needing QBs opt for vets and Shaduer ‘slides’. In b4 ‘hate’ and ‘eye test’ :beli:
100% agree I’ve been called a c00n because I’m not really impressed with his arm. Also idk if it’s because of the team or what but he doesn’t really show out against top 20 teams when they play outside of the Kansas state. I’ve seen them on first take day he would be much better on day Texas or Georgia than the qbs there but I’m not really sure, because I’ve seen those two go crazy again great teams unlike him. I hope I’m wrong tho he seems like a good guy
 

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Because when you draw a comparison, not everything is going to be 100% accurate but you’re looking for CEILING. It’s important to read breh.

What’s the “best case scenario” for Sanders, and that typically is Burrow as a comparison

Come on now man.. idk why you highlight certain portions when the words are right in front of you

But more importantly Sanders is very accurate in the short to intermediate routes.. his deep ball needs work tho
Burrow can move and was pretty mobile in college. Shadeur is a statue.
 

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This is example # 8276429962625990022654 of the Coli not knowing chit about prospects and what teams actually want and look for

Sanders is not an elite prospect, but in a generally weaker class he’s the best and his CEILING is a Burrow type. Which is very good accuracy both on the move and in the pocket on both short and intermediate routes

He’s coached in a pro style offense, while being given freedoms at the line that some QBs werent. He impressed behind a poor to subpar line the past 2 years.

That’s not to say he’s flawless, but he has tools and makes elite throws on tape often enough that he’s a sure fire top 15 pick
 
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