HellRell804
Banned
Waiting until marriage for sex has pretty much been banished to a fringe practice only done by hardcore religious types, but for a while it was standard practice and common knowledge that this was the way to go. Women were sold that casual sex would liberate them and men were just happy to get easy sex. Hindsight being 20/20 and all we can look back and see that this cheapening of sex was a net negative.
1. Women and unattainable standards
By making a man prove his level of commitment and show his ability to provide, it created a reasonable picture of a woman's "market value" by looking at her suitors. No man would go through months, maybe years of courtship, pony up for an engagement ring, and pledge the rest of his life for a woman he honestly couldn't see spending his life with. Even if she wanted the tall, rich, handsome stud like all women, if he wasn't at her door with flowers she knew that she wasn't on that level.
In today's climate though, that stud could be drunk, going through a dry spell, or just bored. He'll slide through, sex that average girl, and she'll forever be chasing that high while never getting commitment, which turns into bitterness. Reminds me of the famous M. Bison quote from SF the movie:
The lower levels of men are completely frozen out and forgotten. Relegated to flesh lights, porn, and dreams of sex bots.
2. In the era of fast food sex, men have lost the drive to innovate, excel, or just be plain productive.
Its no secret that with each generation that passes, men are accomplishing less and less. Men routinely live at home with their mothers until their 30s or even 40s. I routinely try to help brothers in their mid to late 20s who've never seen their credit report and have no idea how it works. And I'm not even going to get into the "thugs" (done to death on this site). But the thing these unproductive men have in common is, they still get sex. Lots of sex, from different women.
Without the burden of proving you can provide for a woman for the rest of her life, you would think men would use this newfound energy and time to change the world. In fact it was the total opposite. The lowered cost of sex correlated directly with lower output and productivity of men.
3. The children
As said earlier, women can get dikk from a variety of men but commitment is elusive. Her last ditch effort (her hail mary so to speak) is to get one of the men she really wants to impregnate her. She'll catch him drunk, lie about being on birth control, even engage in "sperm jacking", where she takes sperm deposited on another body part or still in the condom and insert it into herself. As evidenced by the abysmal out of wedlock rate, we know that this tactic rarely works.
What follows is tragic. You have a father who is quite frankly ashamed of the mother of his child, and a mother who is bitter because she could not secure commitment. Sometimes the dad just decides he wants nothing to do with either of them. Sometimes he wants to be a dad but the Ill feelings between the parents makes that difficult.
Another unintended consequence of this strained relationship is improper raising of the child, especially boys. When the mother finally gets married or settles down, it won't be with a man on the level of what she was chasing in her prime. So you have the case of a young man with an "alpha" mindset (looks, attitude, stature), being "mentored" by a man who possesses none of those qualities. Its impossible for that man to relate to the life that kid has ahead of him.
I'm not knocking stepfathers, they try but a man who had to "wait his turn" in life can't effectively mentor a young man who will be/have first choice options. He needs his father to relate to (specific mistakes, pitfalls to avoid, advice on how to handle the attention.
I'm thinking this "progress" has actually set humanity back.
1. Women and unattainable standards
By making a man prove his level of commitment and show his ability to provide, it created a reasonable picture of a woman's "market value" by looking at her suitors. No man would go through months, maybe years of courtship, pony up for an engagement ring, and pledge the rest of his life for a woman he honestly couldn't see spending his life with. Even if she wanted the tall, rich, handsome stud like all women, if he wasn't at her door with flowers she knew that she wasn't on that level.
In today's climate though, that stud could be drunk, going through a dry spell, or just bored. He'll slide through, sex that average girl, and she'll forever be chasing that high while never getting commitment, which turns into bitterness. Reminds me of the famous M. Bison quote from SF the movie:
The lower levels of men are completely frozen out and forgotten. Relegated to flesh lights, porn, and dreams of sex bots.
2. In the era of fast food sex, men have lost the drive to innovate, excel, or just be plain productive.
Its no secret that with each generation that passes, men are accomplishing less and less. Men routinely live at home with their mothers until their 30s or even 40s. I routinely try to help brothers in their mid to late 20s who've never seen their credit report and have no idea how it works. And I'm not even going to get into the "thugs" (done to death on this site). But the thing these unproductive men have in common is, they still get sex. Lots of sex, from different women.
Without the burden of proving you can provide for a woman for the rest of her life, you would think men would use this newfound energy and time to change the world. In fact it was the total opposite. The lowered cost of sex correlated directly with lower output and productivity of men.
3. The children
As said earlier, women can get dikk from a variety of men but commitment is elusive. Her last ditch effort (her hail mary so to speak) is to get one of the men she really wants to impregnate her. She'll catch him drunk, lie about being on birth control, even engage in "sperm jacking", where she takes sperm deposited on another body part or still in the condom and insert it into herself. As evidenced by the abysmal out of wedlock rate, we know that this tactic rarely works.
What follows is tragic. You have a father who is quite frankly ashamed of the mother of his child, and a mother who is bitter because she could not secure commitment. Sometimes the dad just decides he wants nothing to do with either of them. Sometimes he wants to be a dad but the Ill feelings between the parents makes that difficult.
Another unintended consequence of this strained relationship is improper raising of the child, especially boys. When the mother finally gets married or settles down, it won't be with a man on the level of what she was chasing in her prime. So you have the case of a young man with an "alpha" mindset (looks, attitude, stature), being "mentored" by a man who possesses none of those qualities. Its impossible for that man to relate to the life that kid has ahead of him.
I'm not knocking stepfathers, they try but a man who had to "wait his turn" in life can't effectively mentor a young man who will be/have first choice options. He needs his father to relate to (specific mistakes, pitfalls to avoid, advice on how to handle the attention.
I'm thinking this "progress" has actually set humanity back.