Serious Question, What's The Difference Between ADOS And FBA? EDIT- I’m Joining ADOS!

[Buddy]

Right, because this video is not selective or biased at all.

I mean they have plenty of videos about movie roles and Black celebrities or how the Cosby Show made us think we’re all rich

Neither of these groups were serious and both have targeted people/groups that actually are.

 

[Tom Foolery]

I mean they have plenty of videos about movie roles and Black celebrities or how the Cosby Show made us think we’re all rich

Neither of these groups were serious and both have targeted people/groups that actually are.

Disagree.

As much as they are both big haters, Yvette and Tone always bring facts. So a 20sec clip from them doesn't define the full 20+ min conversation that ties it all together.

Also, you have every black american identify as ADOS/FBA now. Maybe on Cac media networks like Fox or CNN it's not serious, but on the public platforms, it's a different story.

 

[Jay Kast]

I mean they have plenty of videos about movie roles and Black celebrities or how the Cosby Show made us think we’re all rich

Neither of these groups were serious and both have targeted people/groups that actually are.

A bit disingenuous to frame Tones' detailed point, in that the rare and few incidents in which a black celebrity is propped up, promoted, or elevated through shows of wealth or financial success are actually DETRIMENTAL to ADOS progress.

The reason being that he feels the propaganda leads people to believe we're much better off than we actually are, decreasing the sense of urgency to act on the claim to reparations, and increasing ADOS power in government.

The videos concerning movie roles were about immigrants playing revered historical figures here. Which I dont recall him having a serious issue with, I vaguely remember it being about the fact that that particular immigrant disparaged the ADOS community BEFORE starring as prominent black figure.

Theres much more nuance and detail to it than I'm able to articulate - but to present them as infantile or cheap talking points is wholly untrue.

 

[Buddy]

Disagree.

As much as they are both big haters, Yvette and Tone always bring facts. So a 20sec clip from them doesn't define the full 20+ min conversation that ties it all together.

Also, you have every black american identify as ADOS/FBA now. Maybe on Cac media networks like Fox or CNN it's not serious, but on the public platforms, it's a different story.

I seriously hope that was a typo. Or maybe you were trying to say they're referring to us as that in the media. That would be clout though. All that "We were in The New York Times, etc"--that's clout chasing. It doesn't mean anything politically. They've had no influence or engagement on HR40, Cali reparations, Evanston, anything really.They don't even have political direction at this point. They spent the past year campaigning for an apology/retraction of all things from Harvard. And now the campaign is how the media isn't reporting the reporting the retraction. Definitely "political"

 

[Voice of Reason]

I seriously hope that was a typo. Or maybe you were trying to say they're referring to us as that in the media. That would be clout though. All that "We were in The New York Times, etc"--that's clout chasing. It doesn't mean anything politically. They've had no influence or engagement on HR40, Cali reparations, Evanston, anything really.They don't even have political direction at this point. They spent the past year campaigning for an apology/retraction of all things from Harvard. And now the campaign is how the media isn't reporting the reporting the retraction. Definitely "political"

Are you ADOS?

 

[tuckgod]

Dudes jumped the shark. We’re Black Americans or simply, Americans. Dudes scared to just say we’re Americans. For purposes such as reparations or exclusive policy, you could just say we descended from those who were slaves here in the US. It’s getting silly now.

Yeah I’m starting to lean to just American.

If white people don’t have to put a descriptor on their shyt, I don’t either.

Got these goofy foreigners thinking we don’t really belong in our own country.

 

[tuckgod]

Naw Yvette articulated perfectly why there is a need to distinguish ADOS and why it mattered.

Tariq jumped into the conversation and made it a culture war.

Exactly.

 

[Mastamimd]

Yeah I’m starting to lean to just American.

If white people don’t have to put descriptor on their shyt, I don’t either.

Got these goofy foreigners thinking we don’t really belong in our own country.

All due respect, it's white people that feel you really don't belong in their country, ask Mitch McConnell

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

ADOS was started by a deranged wannabe political intellect and failed Democrat Rep staffer while she was being groomed by and serving on the board of directors of a pro eugenics white nationalist activist named John Tanton. Tanton has a history of pushing hard-right astroturf "movements" and organizations disguised as being ran by minorities, regular ole concerned Americans, and even "progressives." Whatever it takes to trick people into his agenda. They're actually corrupt political operations dedicated to preserving America as a white nation, engineering public opinion against black and brown immigration only, and engineering public opinion against liberalism and voting Democrat. In other words ADOS is a made up, corrupt, white nationalist, anti-left, anti-black, politically motivated, viral movement disguised as pro-black. It serves no purpose but to be a breeding ground for Black Republicans.

Tariq Nasheed is a former MTV VJ, turned pickup artist author, turned shameless hustler of all things "pro-black" who saw Yvette Carnell and realized that there is greater internet traffic, activity and money in appealing to the hard right MAGA crowd and a bunch of anti-social contrarian narcissists looking for conspiracies and unknown pervasive enemies than anything unifying or even real. So he came up with "Foundational Black Americans" and switched up from a global pan-African nationalist and historian selling DVDs to a black alt-right thought leader selling nightly showdowns if "clowning on these Africans" to the entertainment of morons that live on the internet, have no friends, and think they're part of something special. Once again just a breeding ground for anti-social weirdos that want to be Republicans.

Either way you're just being pulled into right wing propaganda and agendas. Not a black movement trying to accomplish anything.

 

[tuckgod]

All due respect, it's white people that feel you really don't belong in their country, ask Mitch McConnell

I don’t give a damn what they think.

This ain’t their country, it’s our country.

I got just as many rights as any “white” American and live better than most of them.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

they both represent the same concept. Afram with specific lineage/ethnicity

and non fbas "slip up" and conflate the two because they know this to be a fact

 

[Buddy]

Are you ADOS?

It's been established in the thread that ADOS is a (quasi) political organization and no, I'm not a member

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

And please don't let anyone convince you that Yvette was a more intellectual version of FBA before Tariq came along. From the very start ADOS was some bullshyt that was all about bashing immigrants and liberals and everyone but white conservatives and nationalists for black issues in America. The whole reparations schtick was just a guise to stop people from voting Democrat or at all. The only strategy Yvette Carnell had for pursuing reparations was bashing immigrants, turning people away from the same liberals needed to achieve anything like that, and aimlessly pigeonholding Democrats to these unpopular policy decisions while somehow accusing them of being covert racists at the same time.

The real motivation behind these trash movements is to spread a viral call for action to black to not vote ahead of elections and disadvantage Democrat candidates. That's all their is to it.

 

[richaveli83]

ADOA is a term referring to descendants of enslaved Africans in the area that would become the United States (from its colonial period onward), and to the political movement of the same name. Both the concept and the movement grew out of the hashtag #ADOS created by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore.

FBA is a concept Tariq came up and hijacked.

Although I have my issues with Yvette that go back before she was doing ADOS, I take her and Tone more seriously than Tariq when it comes to getting shyt done for ADOS.

 

[Tom Foolery]

I seriously hope that was a typo. Or maybe you were trying to say they're referring to us as that in the media. That would be clout though. All that "We were in The New York Times, etc"--that's clout chasing. It doesn't mean anything politically. They've had no influence or engagement on HR40, Cali reparations, Evanston, anything really.They don't even have political direction at this point. They spent the past year campaigning for an apology/retraction of all things from Harvard. And now the campaign is how the media isn't reporting the reporting the retraction. Definitely "political"

So we are going to act like Democrats weren't ducking reparation question last election?

Like Ice Cube didn't get fed up and ask for a sit down for black issues?

Al Sharpton telling Joe Biden it's getting rough out there, you need to give use something?

Your source is CAC media that's why you believe it had no impact. They purposely block the black messages out.