You probably hate this argument because it destroys your point.
No, there's no legal mandate to buy a car...but try to function as an adult in 90% of the country without one.
Senate Healthcare Bill Thread - UPDATE: 9/26 Graham-Cassidy Bill is Offically DEAD! Free Daps/Reps!
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You probably hate this argument because it destroys your point.
No, there's no legal mandate to buy a car...but try to function as an adult in 90% of the country without one.
At this point we just have to agree to disgree. Personally, I think you and I should be taxed to provide a public health insurance option. That way neither of us are providing a corporate giveaway to insurance companies. By the way, this was the initial plan but Joe Lieberman killed it with one vote. So it was ridden of and now we subsidize the insurance industry. Are you for a public option?
Though I'm still wondering, if given the power, how would you rework or implement a healthcare system?
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OneManGang
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Great points. People treat the ER like a damn primary care. Either that, or they come in when they're already near or terminally sick with something that could have been seen and avoided with regular visits to a doctor. It shoots up medical costs, takes away beds and resources from those who need them most, and burdens other resources hospitals don't have in abundance. Healthcare in America is so broken man.
Can you parrot anything but republicans rhetoric ? We're talking about people's lives and you're talking fake concern. Do you know how many people did not have access to healthcare before this?
Watch The Shocking Moment John McCain Killed The Republican Health Care Bill
There is so much going on in this clip. I can't stop watching.
Posted on July 28, 2017, at 10:54 a.m.
David Mack
BuzzFeed News Reporter
https://video-cdn.buzzfeed.com/45288/mp4_1920X1080/1501249506
While you were sleeping, Senate Republicans held a late-night vote to try to pass their last-ditch effort to repeal Obamacare — but it all failed when Sen. John McCain bucked the party line and voted against the bill.
Justin Sullivan / Getty Images
The decision by McCain, who was recently diagnosed with brain cancer, came as a shock to many of his colleagues — audible gasps could be heard in the Senate when he voted no.
Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images
McCain joined two other GOP senators — Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, who had consistently objected to the repeal efforts — to vote against the so-called "skinny repeal."
In a statement issued after the vote, McCain said he supported replacing Obamacare but objected to the provisions of this particular proposal and the highly partisan manner in which it was being achieved.
The skinny repeal "offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens," McCain said.
Here's video of the exact moment McCain strolled into the Senate chamber at 1:29 a.m. and voted no with a thumbs-down.
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Just before McCain enters, Murkowski and Collins can be seen watching on, waiting to see if he will join them in opposing the bill.
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Then the door swings open, McCain enters — and Marco Rubio, chewing gum, turns to the self-described maverick from Arizona.
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In the back, Amy Klobuchar (in the red jacket) nudges her colleague to point out that McCain has arrived and rises to her feet in anticipation.
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Elizabeth Warren starts leaning to the side and craning her neck to try to see what McCain is going to do.
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McCain extends his arm in a dramatic gesture.
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Bernie Sanders taps a fellow senator to turn around and not miss this moment.
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Honestly, it's like a Renaissance painting with all this drama.
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Like Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator, McCain then makes a thumbs-down gesture, killing the bill. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell watches on grimly with his arms folded, as other GOP senators hang their heads in disappointment.
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Before McCain silently returns to his seat, he pauses for half a second in front of McConnell, who doesn't acknowledge him.
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Democrats gasp in shock and relief, with some even beginning to clap until Minority Leader Chuck Schumer gestures frantically, urging them to cut it out.
C-SPAN
There is so much going on in this clip. I can't stop watching.
Posted on July 28, 2017, at 10:54 a.m.
David Mack
BuzzFeed News Reporter
https://video-cdn.buzzfeed.com/45288/mp4_1920X1080/1501249506
While you were sleeping, Senate Republicans held a late-night vote to try to pass their last-ditch effort to repeal Obamacare — but it all failed when Sen. John McCain bucked the party line and voted against the bill.
Justin Sullivan / Getty Images
The decision by McCain, who was recently diagnosed with brain cancer, came as a shock to many of his colleagues — audible gasps could be heard in the Senate when he voted no.
Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images
McCain joined two other GOP senators — Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, who had consistently objected to the repeal efforts — to vote against the so-called "skinny repeal."
In a statement issued after the vote, McCain said he supported replacing Obamacare but objected to the provisions of this particular proposal and the highly partisan manner in which it was being achieved.
The skinny repeal "offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens," McCain said.
Here's video of the exact moment McCain strolled into the Senate chamber at 1:29 a.m. and voted no with a thumbs-down.
video-cdn.buzzfeed.com
Just before McCain enters, Murkowski and Collins can be seen watching on, waiting to see if he will join them in opposing the bill.
C-SPAN
Then the door swings open, McCain enters — and Marco Rubio, chewing gum, turns to the self-described maverick from Arizona.
C-SPAN
In the back, Amy Klobuchar (in the red jacket) nudges her colleague to point out that McCain has arrived and rises to her feet in anticipation.
C-SPAN
Elizabeth Warren starts leaning to the side and craning her neck to try to see what McCain is going to do.
C-SPAN
McCain extends his arm in a dramatic gesture.
C-SPAN
Bernie Sanders taps a fellow senator to turn around and not miss this moment.
C-SPAN
Honestly, it's like a Renaissance painting with all this drama.
C-SPAN
Like Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator, McCain then makes a thumbs-down gesture, killing the bill. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell watches on grimly with his arms folded, as other GOP senators hang their heads in disappointment.
C-SPAN
Before McCain silently returns to his seat, he pauses for half a second in front of McConnell, who doesn't acknowledge him.
C-SPAN
Democrats gasp in shock and relief, with some even beginning to clap until Minority Leader Chuck Schumer gestures frantically, urging them to cut it out.
C-SPAN
The Hill
5 hrs ·
A reporter covering the late-night vote on the GOP’s “skinny” ObamaCare repeal bill accidentally dropped her notebook from the press gallery and hit a Republican senator on the head in a moment that was caught on Senate cameras.
Reporter hits GOP senator on head with notebook during ObamaCare repeal vote
"I accidentally dropped my notebook. It's been a long day," the reporter said.
THEHILL.COM
the notebook hit Sen c00n Tim Scott
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
Senator Battling Stage Four Kidney Cancer Shames Republicans Trying to End Obamacare – Mother Jones
House Republicans despair after health care collapse - POLITICO
House Republicans despair after health care collapse — POLITICO
House Republicans despair after health care collapse - POLITICO
House Republicans despair after health care collapse — POLITICO
Senator Battling Stage Four Kidney Cancer Shames Republicans Trying to End Obamacare – Mother Jones
House Republicans despair after health care collapse - POLITICO
House Republicans despair after health care collapse — POLITICO
notice she came back from cancer treatment to vote and there was no standing ovations for her
Sen. Mazie Hirono
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
notice she came back from cancer treatment to vote and there was no standing ovations for her
Yup!
It's sickening
She's a hero
The War Report
NewNewYork
Exactly. McCain is still a dikk blower.
To be fair, the other two were always more hard no's so there is less of a story. In fact, it's rumored that Collins in particular is often given the wink and nod by McConnell to vote no on bills they know will have the votes in order to maintain a "maverick" appeal in her home state. It's always been a vote he is willing to lose. Their vote wasn't as needed. If it was just those two, this would still pass with pence being the tie breaker.
Not to take anything away from them but it's more of a story because McCain was an unknown. He always says on thing and does another. The fact he did what he actually said here is a surprise.
Redemption stories seem to be more popular than status quo stories.
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
You're a contrarian without an independent thought in your head. You clearly don't know anything about health care. Typical.
I've watched this shyt like ten times
Man this is great.
The J.R Commentary was so on point
"Dont do it John!!!"
"He may be Broken in Half!!!"
the notebook hit Sen c00n Tim Scott
"Accidentally"
Watch The Shocking Moment John McCain Killed The Republican Health Care Bill
There is so much going on in this clip. I can't stop watching.
Posted on July 28, 2017, at 10:54 a.m.
David Mack
BuzzFeed News Reporter
https://video-cdn.buzzfeed.com/45288/mp4_1920X1080/1501249506
While you were sleeping, Senate Republicans held a late-night vote to try to pass their last-ditch effort to repeal Obamacare — but it all failed when Sen. John McCain bucked the party line and voted against the bill.
Justin Sullivan / Getty Images
The decision by McCain, who was recently diagnosed with brain cancer, came as a shock to many of his colleagues — audible gasps could be heard in the Senate when he voted no.
Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images
McCain joined two other GOP senators — Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, who had consistently objected to the repeal efforts — to vote against the so-called "skinny repeal."
In a statement issued after the vote, McCain said he supported replacing Obamacare but objected to the provisions of this particular proposal and the highly partisan manner in which it was being achieved.
The skinny repeal "offered no replacement to actually reform our health care system and deliver affordable, quality health care to our citizens," McCain said.
Here's video of the exact moment McCain strolled into the Senate chamber at 1:29 a.m. and voted no with a thumbs-down.
video-cdn.buzzfeed.com
Just before McCain enters, Murkowski and Collins can be seen watching on, waiting to see if he will join them in opposing the bill.
C-SPAN
Then the door swings open, McCain enters — and Marco Rubio, chewing gum, turns to the self-described maverick from Arizona.
C-SPAN
In the back, Amy Klobuchar (in the red jacket) nudges her colleague to point out that McCain has arrived and rises to her feet in anticipation.
C-SPAN
Elizabeth Warren starts leaning to the side and craning her neck to try to see what McCain is going to do.
C-SPAN
McCain extends his arm in a dramatic gesture.
C-SPAN
Bernie Sanders taps a fellow senator to turn around and not miss this moment.
C-SPAN
Honestly, it's like a Renaissance painting with all this drama.
C-SPAN
Like Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator, McCain then makes a thumbs-down gesture, killing the bill. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell watches on grimly with his arms folded, as other GOP senators hang their heads in disappointment.
C-SPAN
Before McCain silently returns to his seat, he pauses for half a second in front of McConnell, who doesn't acknowledge him.
C-SPAN
Democrats gasp in shock and relief, with some even beginning to clap until Minority Leader Chuck Schumer gestures frantically, urging them to cut it out.
C-SPAN