Senate Healthcare Bill Thread - UPDATE: 9/26 Graham-Cassidy Bill is Offically DEAD! Free Daps/Reps!

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Dude wants to "repeal" Obamacare, but keep everything that makes it Obamacare :snoop:

If you say you don't want a bike, but you say you want two spoked wheels, a chain, pedals, handlebars, a frame, and bike brakes...aren't you still just asking for a bike? :ld:
2 items?
 

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those 2 items [those benefits] pre exsisting conditions and children till 26
are the reason that the mandate is necessary.

theres no ala carte take what ya want leave the rest.

younger and healthier people have to be part of the pools to increase funding for everyones health issues.

if only sick people have insurance then coverage wouldnt even be possible. the cost would be prohibitive.

this is why prior to the ACA the insurance companies refused coverage for preexsisting conditions plus life time caps on benefits.
 

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Yes because those protections came from Obamacare they weren't legally mandated before so repealing Obamacare that's part of it. Let's approach this from a different angle though what actually In Obamacare do you want repealed actual specifics and the actual specifics of your old insurance plan .You just seem to be upset about the cost and therapist issue which may be due to your job trying to save money or some other reasons Obamacare needs to be fixed or we need a single payer system . You sound kind of selfish and short sighted as if there isn't a chance you or someone you love may need assistance in the future and.can get killed with bills
 

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As @winb83 stated, requiring insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions and allowing children to stay on their plan until age 26 are huge parts of ACA that necessitate Medicaid expansion; they aren't sustainable without expanding Medicaid.

The insurance exchanges are only part of it (and are the weakest parts, IMO.) Better to keep the ACA and add a public option in addition to the exchanges, rather than gutting the whole thing.
 

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those 2 items [those benefits] pre exsisting conditions and children till 26
are the reason that the mandate is necessary.

theres no ala carte take what ya want leave the rest.

younger and healthier people have to be part of the pools to increase funding for everyones health issues.

if only sick people have insurance then coverage wouldnt even be possible. the cost would be prohibitive.

this is why prior to the ACA the insurance companies refused coverage for preexsisting conditions plus life time caps on benefits.
life might be pretty good if we could pay our auto insurance premiums after we got into an accident. all the good/lucky drivers would never need insurance.
 

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those 2 items [those benefits] pre exsisting conditions and children till 26
are the reason that the mandate is necessary.

theres no ala carte take what ya want leave the rest.

younger and healthier people have to be part of the pools to increase funding for everyones health issues.

if only sick people have insurance then coverage wouldnt even be possible. the cost would be prohibitive.

this is why prior to the ACA the insurance companies refused coverage for preexsisting conditions plus life time caps on benefits.
Thanks I'd like him to be honest and say if he even knew what his original plan actually entailed . Like if he had cancer or some major life event would he reach his lifetime cap In a year and be screwed
 

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life might be pretty good if we could pay our auto insurance premiums after we got into an accident. all the good/lucky drivers would never need insurance.
That's a horrible idea it's like when I was younger and never had health insurance but if something would of happened I would of been fukked . What about if someone sideswipes you then you gotta pay. A huge sum to fix it or a huge sum for insurance ?? That idea your suggesting also affects the horrible drivers who can hit you speed off with no repercussions
 

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That's a horrible idea it's like when I was younger and never had health insurance but if something would of happened I would of been fukked . What about if someone sideswipes you then you gotta pay. A huge sum to fix it or a huge sum for insurance ?? That idea your suggesting also affects the horrible drivers who can hit you speed off with no repercussions
it was sarcasm breh. the post i was quoting was talking about how healthy people are needed in the pool if you're going to require health insurance companies to cover people regardless of pre-existing conditions. that was sarcasm in support of the post. insurance can't work if people can free ride until disaster strikes and then say "hey i need insurance."
 
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it was sarcasm breh. the post i was quoting was talking about that how healthy people are needed in the pool if you're going to require health insurance companies to cover people regardless of pre-existing conditions. that was sarcasm in support of the post. insurance can't work if people can free ride until disaster strikes and then say "hey i need insurance."
Ohh lol sorry breh . With the way some of these posts go I can't be sure. Every thread has a guy suppprting some GOP talking point
 

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Ohh lol sorry breh . With the way some of these posts go I can't be sure. Every thread has a guy supporting some GOP talking point
no prob. yeah some people with childish logic. i would love to not have to pay car insurance premiums that i've gone 6+ years so far without making a claim, but it doesn't work like that. they want all those "good" parts of obamacare, but don't want the costs involved. funny thing is it's usually conservatives talking about how people want something for nothing.

at least i use my health insurance with the doc visits and shyt, fukking car insurance.
 

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ofcourse the overall effect was lost when the "activist judges" on the supreme court decided the medicare expansion was optional
but honestly i would have liked to see what would have happened if the penalties were more punative [with the exsisting exemptions]

higher participation
specifically younger and healthier participation
=
lower costs for everyone
[with the ACA caps on insurance comp profits
and executive compensation,
minimum outlay for actual patient benefit,
increased wellness/ regular checkups,
earlier and less costly detection of illness and issues,
less expensive treatment]

overall the blueprint was pretty damn solid
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BTW am i the only one who gets pissed the fukk off when these lying ass repubs get on tv and talk all kinds of nonsense
about "more choice" "opening up borders for insurance cos to sell across state lines"??????
:mindblown:
thats already allowed in the ACA lying fukks. the insurance companies dont give a fukk and cant make all states are not equal/
:pacspit:
makes me want to throw something at my fukking tv.

that and that bullshyt Granny Starver keeps talking about "access to insurance" like in the way we all have" access to" a 911 turbo Porshe
....
on the internet or in a magazine, but not in person
:pacspit:

God i hate these scum
 
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