Senate Healthcare Bill Thread - UPDATE: 9/26 Graham-Cassidy Bill is Offically DEAD! Free Daps/Reps!

[kevm3]

Of course insurance companies are going to be super profitable. When they have the government backing them by charging Americans a fine if they don't get insurance, then these companies are free to pump up their rates.

 

[hayesc0]

Healthcare shouldn't be for profit

Yep I don't think it will ever change though smh Obamacare might be the best we can do with such a conservative legislator.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Republican politicians???

I'm saying (ESPECIALLY in this thread). those types of replies are lazy and disingenuous, and just screams "hey, dap me, I don't like republicans, fukk trump rep me!!' type of pandering.

Republicans and Democrats are owned by these insurance companies, its disgusting that they use health care for profit

 

[FAH1223]

The overhead for insurance companies is about 30%

For Medicare, its 3%

And people say government is bureaucratic when these insurance companies are bureaucratic as hell. They also get these subsidies from the federal government too.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

And the score from the Congressional Budget Office would follow early next week.

The New York Times: G.O.P. Senators Vow To Unveil Health Bill Thursday, Despite Deep Divisions
Senate Republican leaders, facing their restive colleagues after the Fourth of July recess, vowed on Tuesday to press ahead with their effort to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, with a new version of their bill on Thursday and a vote next week — regardless of the deep divisions in the party. (Kaplan and Pear, 7/11)

The Associated Press: GOP Ready To Try Pushing New Health Bill Through Senate
In the face of unanimous Democratic opposition, the health care bill will crash if just three of the 52 GOP senators oppose it. McConnell suddenly canceled a doomed vote last month on an initial version of the legislation, and at least a dozen Republicans have said they oppose the initial package or distanced themselves from it. Since his June retreat, McConnell has been reshaping the measure in hopes of winning GOP votes. Even so, no GOP leaders were yet predicting passage. (7/12)

Politico: Reeling Republicans Take One Last Shot At Obamacare
New text of the proposal will be made public Thursday, and a Congressional Budget Office analysis is expected on Monday. “We’re in gridlock,” said Sen. John McCain of Arizona. He added sarcastically: “Now we’re going to look at a new approach. And we’re going to get a CBO estimate on Monday. Yay!” Sen. Ron Johnson, a conservative holdout, called it a "political blunder" that McConnell started the health care debate as a partisan, all-Republican effort. (Everett and Haberkorn, 7/11)

NPR: New Senate GOP Health Care Bill To Be Released Thursday
A revised Congressional Budget Office score, showing the costs and impact on coverage of the new version of the bill, is expected on Monday or Tuesday of next week. The CBO score of the first version found that the BCRA would leave 22 million more people uninsured by 2026. (Taylor, 7/11)

 

[Dr. Acula]

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Mitch folding like a cheap turtle

Don't get complacent.

The house bill went through the same up and downs for republicans.

Don't underestimate the ability of mcconnel to make some deals here and there. He already tried upping the opiod and drug addiction treatment fund for people I places like WVa

Also Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee aren't reliable "Nos".

This shyt isn't done until it's done.

 

[Black Panther]

@FAH1223 for the featured status :bpbanderas:

 

[BaileyPark31]

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Don't get complacent.

The house bill went through the same up and downs for republicans.

Don't underestimate the ability of mcconnel to make some deals here and there. He already tried upping the opiod and drug addiction treatment fund for people I places like WVa

Also Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee aren't reliable "Nos".

This shyt isn't done until it's done.

 

[Dr. Acula]

To my colleagues in Congress: I have MS. Don’t make my insurance unaffordable.
By Donna F. Edwards July 7 at 7:54 PM
Donna F. Edwards, a Democrat from Maryland, was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from 2008 to 2017. She is currently a senior fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice.

Dear colleagues in Congress,

All my life, I’ve mostly been active and healthy (save for the occasional sports injury). While in Congress, I rode my bicycle regularly to clear my head. I played on our congressional women’s softball team and on our football team. Each January, I jumped in the ice-cold Potomac River to call attention to climate change. In 2015, I ran a handful of 5K and 10K races. I thought I was in great health. I was not.

After my loss in the April 2016 Senate primary, I wasn’t just disappointed, I was exhausted. During the recess that May, I decided to spend a week relaxing in the Outer Banks of North Carolina. The beach was beautiful, but it did not cure my exhaustion. One day, on an early-morning run, my legs felt like spaghetti. Assuming I had a pinched nerve or stretched tendon, I decided to see my doctor on my return. Still, I went to work and kept up my schedule; after all, we had votes in the House on Monday.

The doctor found nothing out of the ordinary, though I was still tired. Because all the tests were normal, I decided to go for a 10-mile bike ride the following weekend, thinking the exercise would make me feel better. Trying to avoid some runners and children on the bike path, I upended on my bike and flipped into the brush. I was scratched and bruised, and my ankle was pretty badly sprained, but I survived. I was fortunate, though, because the accident prompted some additional delving into my symptoms.

As a member of Congress, I had pretty decent health care. After the passage of the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — we were required to leave the Federal Employees Health Benefit Plan and go into the D.C. Health Exchange. I chose a gold-tier Blue Cross-Blue Shield plan with a $400-a-month premium (plus deductibles and copays) that enabled me to see all the specialists I needed. I finally got my diagnosis after nearly two months of tests and analysis. It came June 22, 2016 — the day of the House sit-in in support of gun-control legislation.


That morning, I went to the House floor to join the sit-in. But hours into our protest, the House attending physician called me to his office to tell me I had multiple sclerosis, an autoimmune disease that attacks the central nervous system. At first, I couldn’t process what he was saying. I thought I had a pinched nerve; I didn’t know anything about MS. Devastated, I blinked away my tears and went back to the chamber, where I stayed for the remainder of the evening.

I’ve learned a lot about MS since that day. It’s likely that I have had the disease for the past decade, undiagnosed. I’ve learned that more than 400,000 Americans have MS, that it’s not fatal and that it affects different people in different ways. Once I received my diagnosis, I was determined to find a great neurologist, which I did. I read up on the latest treatments and research studies. I wanted to take control of my treatment. I also knew that I was fortunate to be diagnosed relatively early and to have great health-care coverage, which enabled me to take care of my medical needs without worrying.

A year later, I am no longer in Congress, and my future health care is uncertain. I am not employed, and I pay $800 a month for my COBRA coverage, which ends in June 2018. I’m not sure what I’ll do then. My medication, which has thankfully halted the progression of my MS, costs roughly $73,000 a year. I’ve had three sets of MRI scans and will require one each year to check my progress; that’s roughly $7,000 each. I admit, I do not completely understand all of the bills. It’s very confusing.

Unlike some of you, I am not wealthy. When I was younger, I had the experience of not having health insurance, and I almost lost my home after landing in the emergency room. One reason I ran for Congress was to help make sure no one would have to go through that, and I was proud to be one of the presiding officers when the Affordable Care Act passed. I did not think the law was perfect; I believed it was a good start. I never thought I could have to go back to a time when I would not have health-care coverage.

And yet, with the health-care bills you are now advancing, here I am. If we return to a time when people with preexisting conditions can be charged more than healthy people, it will surely result in my never being able to afford insurance again. If we return to a time of lifetime caps, I will no longer have health insurance.

In January, I set out in a 25-foot motor home and logged 12,000 miles through 27 states over three months. I talked to a lot of people in Alabama and Mississippi, Arizona and Texas, Kansas and Indiana. We talked about our dreams and aspirations — about jobs, education and health care, about children and grandchildren. I heard people’s stories about losing jobs, working in retirement, not having health care and family members dying. They told me about their cancer, diabetes and heart disease. I told them about my MS — all strangers.

Most of the people I met in RV parks across the country were Republicans. They had no idea that I once was privileged to serve in Congress as a Democrat. And this story, my diagnosis of MS, is not about me; it’s about them — millions of Americans who are trusting you to help, not harm. Like them, I’m scared. Like them, I’m scared of being sick and not being able to afford to go to my doctor or purchase the medicine that is saving my life; like them, I’m worried that one day I will have to sell my home or spend my retirement savings on my health care. I don’t know what I will do next or whether I will run for public office again. I do know that my MS will not stop me. But not having health-care coverage because of my MS could stop me permanently.

I’m doing fine. I’ve adjusted to my new body and different capacity. But I pray that as you finish doing whatever it is that you are doing with health care, you remember that I was one of your colleagues, that I worked hard and that I don’t have a preexisting condition because I was a bad person who led an unhealthy life. I have a preexisting condition simply because I do; and I, like millions of other Americans in the same situation, deserve quality, affordable health care.

Warmest regards,

Donna

Get this woman in front of a camera and cut an ad. Air it in areas you know healthcare is vital to a sizeable portion of the population. Find more people like her and do the same.

If I was in some position to do messaging for he democrats I would do this in a heartbeat.

 

[Black Panther]

Senate GOP to offer new healthcare bill on Thursday

 

[Dr. Acula]

Senate GOP to offer new healthcare bill on Thursday

A Republican senator familiar with the talks with Cruz and Lee said negotiators are exploring modifications to their provision to make it more palatable to moderates.

One idea is to add language to the Cruz–Lee amendment that would specifically protect people with pre-existing conditions, said the senator familiar with the talks. But a stumbling block there is that Lee is insisting it not be attached to the community rating requirement, which assures that those with existing medical conditions can buy affordable plans.

Then effectively you're still pricing people out with preexisting conditions.

Also this is just stupid. You need healthy people in the same pool as those who are sick to make it work.

 

[Pressure]

Then effectively you're still pricing people out with preexisting conditions.

"Access"

 

[Don Homer]

OK so these nikkas are just fukking insane.

If I was a republican and Obama passed my law even though he had a huge majority of democrats when it was passed, i would be hitting the stanky leg on the house floor.
you literally got what you wanted, and you wanna take it back cuz a democrat gave it to you?

 

[the cac mamba]

are there any positives to this bill? the shyt must have SOME redeemable qualities :deadjay:

 

[hashmander]

OK so these nikkas are just fukking insane.

If I was a republican and Obama passed my law even though he had a huge majority of democrats when it was passed, i would be hitting the stanky leg on the house floor.
you literally got what you wanted, and you wanna take it back cuz a democrat gave it to you?

it wasn't their law or current position, parties change. the country as a whole is further to the right on fiscal matters than we were back in the 90's. so in 2009 the republican party had moved on to an even more right wing position on healthcare.