See THIS is why we need to get hip hop history right. Talib and Pete Rock interview saying Hip Hop is not Black American....

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Yeah, now say when in the 70s?:unimpressed:
Hip Hop didn't start when Kool Herc started DJing parties. You giving a Jamaician credit for creating Hip Hop right there when you say that.

brother we are talkin about the culmination, its agreed it was early 70s, 71, 72

that was 50 yrs ago. please dont try to bring up the jubilariees and shyt.
 

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As someone who goes to bat for the Caribbean influence in hip-hop, this being true does not mean hip-hop is not Black American.
hiphop is not black american

its just BLACK

before fba only foreigners thought oh hiphop is black american

we here stateside BEEN had elevated to a pan african non border POV

shotout P.E., PRT , XCLAN, KRS
 

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hiphop is not black american

its just BLACK

before fba only foreigners thought oh hiphop is black american

we here stateside BEEN had elevated to a pan african non border POV

shotout P.E., PRT , XCLAN, KRS
Hip-hop's contributors just black but the art form and culture itself is rooted in our experience in America.
 

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I can't acknowledge wishful thinking as a fact. That should be, but it ain't.
wishful thinking?

im talking about content based philosophy

this is FACTS

you clutchin onto this shyt like its a teddy bear.

loud choppers? xmen references?

you living fantasies ngga i reject your deposit lol
 

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Everyone knows that Kool Herc, Bam, and Flash ripped off these guys.

 

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hiphop is not black american

its just BLACK

before fba only foreigners thought oh hiphop is black american

we here stateside BEEN had elevated to a pan african non border POV

shotout P.E., PRT , XCLAN, KRS
Hip hop is black american. Rooted in black american culture and black american music. Hip hop was contributed to heavily by Caribbean Americans. Doesn't change its roots and culture. Muthafukkas didn't just come to New York and GIVE us Hip hop. Hip hop is rooted in AMERICAN culture, music, experiences, etc etc. Not foreign. nikkas tryna erase us from our own history is corny. Black Americans created 95% of modern popular music. Muthafukkas was dancing to BREAK BEATS. Which created Breakdancing. NOT Reggae or Salsa. The music that was being flipped was soul music. Went to electronic music as well. The producers including Pete HIMSELF was flipping black american Jazz, rnb, soul etc etc. All of Pete's most known works used american flips.
 
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