See THIS is why we need to get hip hop history right. Talib and Pete Rock interview saying Hip Hop is not Black American....

[spliz]

And this is why black Americans need to start taking ownership of shyt and this is why history is so important. Pete Rock should be ashamed of himself as a producer and DJ. nikka what records was u flipping and sampling? Was it reggae or was it soul, jazz and rnb?

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

And this is why black Americans need to start taking ownership of shyt and this is why history is so important. Pete Rock should be ashamed of himself as a producer and DJ. nikka what records was u flipping and sampling? Was it reggae or was it soul, jazz and rnb?

Breakbeats/Hiphop was Bronx. (African Americans and Puerto Ricans)
Graffiti was New York (mixed.)
Breakdancing was New York (mixed.)
Rapping was African American.

Make of that what you want, but thats what it was, and thats what it is.

 

[spliz]

Breakbeats/Hiphop was Bronx. (African Americans and Puerto Ricans)
Graffiti was New York (mixed.)
Breakdancing was New York (mixed.)
Rapping was African American.

Make of that what you want, but thats what it was, and thats what it is.

I dont know what the point of this post is. Lol.

 

[DontEemTry]

Only thing I like about this is that I would love to see Talib and Tariq at each others necks. Two very unlikable people. Let them fight

 

[Art Barr]

Breakbeats/Hiphop was Bronx. (African Americans and Puerto Ricans)
Graffiti was New York (mixed.)
Breakdancing was New York (mixed.)
Rapping was African American.

Make of that what you want, but thats what it was, and thats what it is.

Are you black?

Black people do not say African america.


Art Barr

 

[nieman]

It really is a hard thing to discuss though. Because if it's rooted in reggae, decades old Caribbean culture, or ancient African tribal culture, as some want to argue dating it's earliest influences, it wouldn't be Black "American". So it really is a game of semantics, and people can't be on both sides. Plus, we can't pinpoint exactly when the pieces combined to become hip-hop. It's always going to be a sensitive topic, because it's hard to dissect.

However, hip-hop is 100% American, and I'd say inner city American to be more specific

 

[Blackgate]

That is a crazy thing to say. Pete and kweli said hip hop is largely from puerto rican and jamaican culture. People used to always bring up the james brown influence on hip hop so I wonder why the story is changing to it came mostly from jamaica and puerto rico and immigrant cultures.

 

[Da_Eggman]

You know more about hip hop than Pete Rock?

 

[African Peasant]

That is a crazy thing to say. Pete and kweli said hip hop is largely from puerto rican and jamaican culture. People used to always bring up the james brown influence on hip hop so I wonder why the story is changing to it came mostly from jamaica and puerto rico and immigrant cultures.

Maybe it has to do with the demographic change in New York: more and more Carribean (including DR and PR) than Black american, at least in what I see in influence

Just an hypothesis

 

[straightcash]

People already been going with the fake "50th anniversary" thing without being corrected. Hip Hop is older than that.

 

[The Dust King]

Maybe it has to do with the demographic change in New York: more and more Carribean (including DR and PR) than Black american, at least in what I see in influence

Just an hypothesis

this is exactly it and we have characters who never set foot on this soil like @IllmaticDelta who jus shytpost all day

as somebody who lives here and basks in the roots my cypher is unchallenged

quick history lesson for the unknowing

1. carib been had africans becuase they traveled before europeans

2. colombus (spain) was controlled by europeans and did they bidding. spain has many blacks due to the moors. colombus was an idiot which is why we call natives indians

3. after all the genocide of the natives more slaves were brought in (majority african but also asian and arabic)

4. this makes up most of the carib today

5. hiphop has elements of 1930s carib jazz and steel drums which became popular and mainstream in the 60s

6. now we got people who want to disrespect the pioneering of civility and bridging cultural gaps in the name of fred and malcolm while claiming original man

its beyond ridiculous and i challenge anybody to pull up to the school allah and get busy wit me

thread is pathetic




video live at the cheetah club in 1971

nuff said

 

[The Dust King]

People already been going with the fake "50th anniversary" thing without being corrected. Hip Hop is older than that.

hiphop is from the 70s breh its 50 yrs old stop it five

 

[Shadow King]

Breakbeats/Hiphop was Bronx. (African Americans and Puerto Ricans)
Graffiti was New York (mixed.)
Breakdancing was New York (mixed.)
Rapping was African American.

Make of that what you want, but thats what it was, and thats what it is.

As someone who goes to bat for the Caribbean influence in hip-hop, this being true does not mean hip-hop is not Black American.

 

[straightcash]

hiphop is from the 70s breh its 50 yrs old stop it five

Yeah, now say when in the 70s?
Hip Hop didn't start when Kool Herc started DJing parties. You giving a Jamaician credit for creating Hip Hop right there when you say that.

 

[The Dust King]

and i repeat im outside all the time

anybody who needs that formal education tap in, we can go anywhere from QB to edenwald