NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
It's AMAZING.I've been watching it all season with the Lions and the media darling Ben Johnson.
Sean Payton- Nathaniel Hackett might have done the worst coaching job in the history of the NFL last year
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And infuriating. Jameson Williams is one of the fastest guys in the league and somebody Brad Holmes traded up to get. I don't think they've thrown him five deep balls all season and that's including his 63 yarder this past weekend.
Jahmyr Gibbs is electric when he gets the ball and terrifying when he gets the ball in space. It felt like it took two months before he got a toss or stretch play. Everything was between the tackles. Even now, the vast majority of his carries are right up the gut.
All the praise Ben Johnson gets drives me nuts.
It has been all over the media (certainly on Twitter from what I've seen in recent months), that even when Denver was winning with Russell being a solid game manager....that Sean Payton felt held back by the QB position.
Wilson getting benched because of his contract is a debacle, but Payton clearly doesn't want him to be his QB anyway -- even if Wilson agreed to restructure his contract.
But it's not like Jarret Stidham showed anything in the win over the Chargers last week. He played the same conservative game management style that Russ has been playing all year.
Denver's defense is really carrying this team this year. And I don't think Payton is really going to make the offense elite to the point that they're AFC contenders. What I think happens is...they battle for a Wild Card spot for the entirety of Payton's time there because the Chargers and Raiders are so bad, that by default, the Broncos will be the 2nd best team in the AFC West.
Wilson getting benched because of his contract is a debacle, but Payton clearly doesn't want him to be his QB anyway -- even if Wilson agreed to restructure his contract.
But it's not like Jarret Stidham showed anything in the win over the Chargers last week. He played the same conservative game management style that Russ has been playing all year.
Denver's defense is really carrying this team this year. And I don't think Payton is really going to make the offense elite to the point that they're AFC contenders. What I think happens is...they battle for a Wild Card spot for the entirety of Payton's time there because the Chargers and Raiders are so bad, that by default, the Broncos will be the 2nd best team in the AFC West.
Gritsngravy
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I don’t know if that’s the case, the broncos could easily be the worse team in that division for his whole time there as a coach
It's because Payton on NO, McDermott, Daboll, Mangini, McVay, Reid on KC etc have gone to the playoffs their first year.
Sean Payton is a worse coach than mccarthy but has a Parcells ego that doesn't match accomplishments, just like Parcells fat worthless ass.
Piff Perkins
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It's not Arthur Smith bad but it's...not good. I do wonder how much of it is Dan Campbell having a heavy role in things though. How many (non play caller) head coaches do you see who constantly have a play sheet in their hand, and often look like they're calling plays? Johnson without someone looking behind his back could be an entirely different play caller. And frankly when you listen to some of the things players have said, I do wonder about it. Jahmyr Gibbs specifically said this spring that Johnson told him he'd be extensively used in the pass game. Holmes called him an offensive weapon when he drafted him. Yet on the field his route tree basically has two things on it (screens and the most basic check down).
Even if you think Ben Johnson is overrated it's hard for me not to think he'd be amazing in Atlanta or LA (Chargers).
Copy Ninja
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I've been watching it all season with the Lions and the media darling Ben Johnson.
A lot of Patriots fans want to replace Belichick with Ben Johnson
And none of those teams were as bad as the Broncos
And none of those teams were as bad as the Broncos
The Giants were trash
The Saints were too
The Rams were horrific before McVay
The fact that Aaron Rodgers wants this idiot as his OC is an indictment on him..
This guy ARod is a massive narcissist on some Trump shyt
Most great players want to be coached.
Aaron wants this idiot as his coach just so he can tell him what to do
Hackett does not belong on an NFL staff he is completely inept
This is probably why Aaron Rodgers hasn't won more
He's a overly sensitive narcissistic clown who believes in conspiracy theories.
Jets are once again a laughing stock franchise
This guy ARod is a massive narcissist on some Trump shyt
Most great players want to be coached.
Aaron wants this idiot as his coach just so he can tell him what to do
Hackett does not belong on an NFL staff he is completely inept
This is probably why Aaron Rodgers hasn't won more
He's a overly sensitive narcissistic clown who believes in conspiracy theories.
Jets are once again a laughing stock franchise
Johnson doesn't seem to be in a hurry to leave Detroit. He coulda got a job last offseason and that rumored leak of him wanting $15 per to be a head coach doesn't scream, "get me out of here."
Piff Perkins
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Johnson doesn't seem to be in a hurry to leave Detroit. He coulda got a job last offseason and that rumored leak of him wanting $15 per to be a head coach doesn't scream, "get me out of here."
I assumed he came back last year because the jobs available weren't great, he had unfinished business, and he has young kids. I def think he's gone this time since there are better jobs this time. Specifically the Chargers where you have a great QB or Atlanta where you can probably draft one.
The funny thing is that a couple years ago it seemed like Carolina would make sense. They had a crazy good run game, zone killing WR (DJ Moore) who is a great blocker, good o-line etc. Just needed a QB. Since then they've dismantled their run game, crippled the o-line and wasted their draft capitol on Bryce Young. They're fukked lol, I doubt any big names go there.
