Say what you want about Cole apologizing, he still had the best verse of the year by far

[RennisDeynolds]

All imma say is this

if cole & kendrick were to write they best verse ever i’m like 98% sure that kendrick is washing cole by a landslide

I feel like Johnny P’s Caddy is cole’s ceiling. I dont think he can put out a verse better than that.

but Kendrick As GOAT as he is, I still don’t think we’ve heard his best shyt. We’ve heard heard bits and pieces (Heart 3/4, Ignorance is Bliss, FEEL, 6:16) but his best is yet to come.

he’s at the level where BIG was when Life After Death dropped. nothing but heat but the future was/is his

Kendrick is nowhere close to BIG rapping wise . Yall let the pure mediocrity of his peers fool yall

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Kendrick is nowhere close to BIG rapping wise . Yall let the pure mediocrity of his peers fool yall

ok rennisdeynolds

 

[Nuuko]

All he got his flow and cadences

You know what he gon say, before he says it type lyrics

Budden already talked about that, and I agree...after hearing Cole first bars, you can predict the rest of the verse.
But I can understand why his flow and cadences would appeal to a NY nikka, but someone like Splitz should better talk about his "preferences" instead of "who is better".

an appealing flow =/= a good flow.

There are 5 ways to musically describe an mcee flow (there is no 4 points, there is no 6 points, there's only 5):

1) the rate at which he drop rhymes
2) how he says his words and syllables, whether all rolled together or separated
3) the nature of his sentences
4) whether he repeats certain rhythms, or create new ones
5) the nature of his rhymes

J Cole flows and cadences are actually really bad, probably the worst for a rapper of his statut
Now, you take a song like Backseat Freestyle, which sound pretty basic in my opinion, in reality its probably one of the most technical rap songs there is from a flow perspective...there's literally books analyzing his flows and cadences on that track.

There's levels to this, there's actual sciences behind a rapper's flow, behind his bars and how he raps them.

J.Cole is not good in that aspect. But I'm not saying one can't enjoy his flows/cadences. Thats where subjectivity comes into play

 

[Pure Water]

At this point. This site is in the dirt. shyt is on some cult shyt at this point. nikkas can't have legitimate discussions. It's a bunch of bots running around and making posts and threads about the same nikkas over and over again with no consequences. This is a joke. Now u got bots telling ME I don't know about hip hop.. lol. It's supposed to be grown men on this shyt but it's no different than The Shade Room comment section at this point.

All of this apply to you.

 

[spliz]

nikka stop crying

This the coli. Either troll harder than the next man or tuck yourself in the bushes with nap

Grown man bruh. Don't got time for the weirdo shyt.

 

[spliz]

All of this apply to you.

Who are u?

 

[BK The Great]

 

[Yecht]

Then why didn't he?

This is the whole point and why he's disqualified forever. He could have simply said "i'm friends with both these guys and I'm about uniting people, not dividing us" and kept doing what he was doing making music. The fact he recorded and dropped a diss, then immediately apologized for it, is the biggest clown shyt ever. And why his great great great great grandkid someday will be getting called J. Fold VI

 

[Piff Perkins]

Also for the record @spliz my favorite verse this year so far is def Spitta on this



Boldy James got the next ones, on that album with Conductor.

 

[Pure Water]

Who are u?

A nikka that replied to you.

 

[Yecht]

KD is the J. Fold of Basketball; immense talent with a forever tarnished reputation/legacy. Breh could have kept hooping and grinding and probably earned a chip in OKC. Instead he clique hopped, got his only chips with Steph's Dubs team that won without him - before AND after - and then has forced his way out of several situations HE created in the first place and hasn't won shyt anywhere else. Meanwhile he got exposed for spending the whole time all over socials on burner accounts whining and defending himself like a thottie



Also, this:

 

[spliz]

A nikka that replied to you.

Exactly. Some random nikka. fukk outta here.

 

[BlackXCL]

nikkas in here really trying to make it seem like cole isnt a premium MC on the mic. just because of one action.

an apology doesnt make him a bad rapper. he made a stupid move. he is still a fantastic rapper.

Bars, flow, punchlines, metaphors, wordplay, actual rhyming schemes.. Cole washes kendrick. cut the BS.

 

[tehparadox]

nobody cares if he apologized or not...he was never considered a premium mcee before that He's not in kendrick's category. Stop rewriting history.

 

[tehparadox]

Budden already talked about that, and I agree...after hearing Cole first bars, you can predict the rest of the verse.
But I can understand why his flow and cadences would appeal to a NY nikka, but someone like Splitz should better talk about his "preferences" instead of "who is better".

an appealing flow =/= a good flow.

There are 5 ways to musically describe an mcee flow (there is no 4 points, there is no 6 points, there's only 5):

1) the rate at which he drop rhymes
2) how he says his words and syllables, whether all rolled together or separated
3) the nature of his sentences
4) whether he repeats certain rhythms, or create new ones
5) the nature of his rhymes

J Cole flows and cadences are actually really bad, probably the worst for a rapper of his statut
Now, you take a song like Backseat Freestyle, which sound pretty basic in my opinion, in reality its probably one of the most technical rap songs there is from a flow perspective...there's literally books analyzing his flows and cadences on that track.

There's levels to this, there's actual sciences behind a rapper's flow, behind his bars and how he raps them.

J.Cole is not good in that aspect. But I'm not saying one can't enjoy his flows/cadences. Thats where subjectivity comes into play

Thank you, this is NOT subjective.
I can break down kendrick's flow for years, with just one or 2 songs.
Martin Connor's has great books for this. He been analyzing his flows for years, its worth a read.