Sanctuary Cities.. i dont get it

[MeachTheMonster]

oh...I don't know...

your repeated denial of the impacts of illegals on black employment?

your obfuscation of illegal immigrant labor demands?

your red herrings instructing blacks to just "get their shyt together?"

You made all this up, and even if it were true it still wouldn't mean that I support illegal immigration.

1. I have not denied the reports that say illegals effect black job prospects.

What I have said is, that reality is not the only or most important thing to consider when talking about immigration policy. And that the proposed plans from conservatives would result in a net negative for black people overall.

2. Have not obfuscated anything

3. Never said this, not once. You made it up.

you posted a story of black illegal immigrants that were suppose to and should be deported, i wasnt saying that no black illegal immigrant will be deported, i was just saying that the black illegal population is minuscule

Follow along dummy. If black neighborhoods are being raided looking for black illegals, black legal citizens are likely being accosted. Immigration agents are also profiling blacks at the boarder.
The other face of immigration from Mexico is African

This is literally happening now. Your repeated denial doesn't change reality.

i am concerned about philando castile and his family, and im also concerned with the fact that he was killed by an officer named Jeronimo Yanez, due to non anglo name i have to assume this cop is an immigrant or son of an immigrant, this points to the fact that immigrant communities practice white supremacy

Philandro and people like him ARE intersectionality. If you support him then you support intersectionality.

You don't give a fukk about his family cause they aren't what you deem "black" or an ally.

This story shows immigrants on both sides of white supremacy. You think his family supports the officer cause they are less "black" than him?

There are just as many if not more black police officers out enforcing white supremacy. Should I then generalize black people as white supremacist too?

so before black people go around making alliances and interesectionalizing with immigrants communities we need to get to the bottom of why they are practicing white supremacy

Same reason some black people including yourself practice it.

and the question still stands, why are you riding so hard for people that dont give a fuk about you and that practice white supremacy?

And it's still a dumb ass question based on a false unsubstantiated premise.

i support all laws that are constitutional

Plenty of fukked up shyt is constitutional. Including white supremacy

 

[MeachTheMonster]

man hold up

you had BLACK SOLDIERS in EVERY war this country has ever fought and came back home and STILL fought for their rights and you now wanna play with the idea of citizenship?

What the hell is the point of us being citizens if it carries no benefits?

I didn't say anything about citizenship.

I said being black and supporting the laws of this country, just for the simple fact that they are a "law" means you are either c00ning or have not paid attention to the last 400 years.

Literally everything bad that has happened to black people here has been supported by the law. The mere virtue of something being illegal isn't enough to make me feel any way about it.

Immigration laws are born out of white supremacy, and their sole purpose is to preserve white supremacy.

 

[Mythical Truth]

Because both sides use this topic as a political football. No one cares about actual people involved, be them illegals or poor Americans.

 

[EndDomination]

man you lean right wing .

anyway when you say use federal money what do you mean? did the federal govt generate that money on their own? or does a state like new york send more money to the federal govt than they get back in return? it's one thing to threaten useless taker states (funny most of them are red and they hate takers), it's another to threaten donor states.

and you probably shouldn't care either way. but it never ends there because you all end up caring about one particular way and in this case it's usually on the side of racists. these cities want to keep things rolling along and they feel gestapo tactics aren't good for state business and safety. why fukk with their economy? you right wingers like to talk about freedom when it's red states discriminating against people, but these blue state govts are supported by big majorities in their state and they don't seem to have a problem with it. the basic tenant of a sanctuary city is that the police shouldn't be asking about a person's legal status before they provide service. if ICE wants someone they can go get them. they are CHOOSING to not use their resources to enforce federal law, basically conscientiously objecting.

finally and most importantly this is protected by the 10th amendment. equal protection applies to everyone in the country, not just citizens, so states and municipalities can't deny services to anyone regardless of immigration status. so these cities are actually behaving lawfully.

All of this.
The absorption of the concept of "illegal immigrants" by Whites descended from "illegal immigrants" and Black people who seem to be more or less bootlickers is of the utmost irony.
We just had a presentation on campus about sanctuary cities.

 

[EndDomination]

Also: I can tell almost none of you have any clue about sanctuary cities.
Where is it mentioned that the federal government or the state government pays for people who are undocumented?
A sanctuary city is just a city that permits people who are undocumented to stay there, without fear of state collusion in having them deported

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I didn't say anything about citizenship.

I said being black and supporting the laws of this country, just for the simple fact that they are a "law" means you are either c00ning or have not paid attention to the last 400 years.

Literally everything bad that has happened to black people here has been supported by the law. The mere virtue of something being illegal isn't enough to make me feel any way about it.

Immigration laws are born out of white supremacy, and their sole purpose is to preserve white supremacy.

Blacks were seeking equal protection under the law.

We never had our origin of citizenship question.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What I have said is, that reality is not the only or most important thing to consider when talking about immigration policy. And that the proposed plans from conservatives would result in a net negative for black people overall.

"most important" is another obfuscation.

The fact is that we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

You'd always keep moving the goalposts if that meant never having to address illegal immigration policy.

Laws against illegals should and must continue to be enforced, especially with respect to their impacts on African Americans over the last 30 years.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I disagree with you on most things but you're right on the money here Napo

I already had guessed which blocked blowhard was getting all those replies

As if you needed a clearer sign you were on the wrong track.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Blacks were seeking equal protection under the law.

We never had our origin of citizenship question.

Not even sure what you are getting at here.

The mistreatment of minorities has been supported by the law in this country. All types of laws are backwards as fukk

Something being "the law" means nothing to me. In fact "the law" is used as one of the main preservation mechanisms for white supremacy.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Because both sides use this topic as a political football. No one cares about actual people involved, be them illegals or poor Americans.

its not a football...it affects people who look like me. thats the problem.

My parents are black and came here from another country.

They got their green cards, became citizens, and did things the right way.

We can argue that LEGAL immigration also needs reform in the visa system. I'm all for that.

However, illegals have gained more rights than non-citizens ever have:

Healthcare? College? Housing? Loans? Business licenses?

Where does it end? Whats the point of even being a citizen anymore?

Just cause you live next door doesn't mean you get to abuse the geography and come here and reside illegally.

Mexico itself is freaking out over a few THOUSAND Haitian refugees. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/...ijuana-migrants-haitians-trump-wall.html?_r=0

You think Mexico plays by the same rules?

I can't even own land as a non-mexican citizen in some parts of the country.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Not even sure what you are getting at here.

The mistreatment of minorities has been supported by the law in this country. All types of laws are backwards as fukk

Something being "the law" means nothing to me. In fact "the law" is used as one of the main preservation mechanisms for white supremacy.

If illegals didn't have passports at the airport, they couldn't get in.

Whats the problem now?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

"most important" is another obfuscation.

The fact is that we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Not according to the people trying to enact these laws.

Our president is proposing nationwide stop and frisk/papers please. Deportation forces. Cutting funds from social programs to build walls and patrol neighborhoods, and the list goes on.

You'd always keep moving the goalposts if that meant never having to address illegal immigration policy.

I've addressed it here. You just don't like what I said

Laws against illegals should and must continue to be enforced, especially with respect to their impacts on African Americans over the last 30 years.

The laws should be changed/enforced differently if you want a net positive for black people.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Not according to the people trying to enact these laws.

Our president is proposing nationwide stop and frisk/papers please. Deportation forces. Cutting funds from social programs to build walls and patrol neighborhoods, and the list goes on.


I've addressed it here. You just don't like what I said


The laws should be changed/enforced differently if you want a net positive for black people.

Whats wrong with deporting people?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

If illegals didn't have passports at the airport, they couldn't get in.

Whats the problem now?

No problem with that.

You can't follow along with what I'm actually posting without running to one of your talking points

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Whats wrong with deporting people?

Nothing. But you and I both know it's not that simple.