Ryan clark says russell wilson is not a all time great qb

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Russell Wilson is a top 10 QB of all time. I like Ryan Clark and I usually respect his takes but he can get too sensationalist at times when its not warranted.

Same dude said Mahomes was "broken" a few months ago and then just a few days ago was comparing him to Jordan.
 

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Not defer'n to the obvious game winning play.
For individual glory over beast mode.
Is what will always keep babyhair giant polar bear hands mitts.
from being referenced in that all time great ideal.


If he would have gave the ball to beast mode.
We would not even be here.



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He said "Hes never going to be in those conversations"

What have we seen so far that would change that? He always falls off a cliff in the 2nd half of the season and most of Seattles issues were on him as well. It’s more to being a great QB than having good stats and numbers.
 

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Not defer'n to the obvious game winning play.
For individual glory over beast mode.
Is what will always keep bayhair giant polar bear hands mitts.
from being referenced in that all time great ideal.


If he would have gave the ball to beast mode.
We would not even be here.



Art Barr

He wanted to change it Marshawn told him to run the play.
That was all on Pete.
And one play doesn't define a career. :heh:
 

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What have we seen so far that would change that? He always falls off a cliff in the 2nd half of the season and most of Seattles issues were on him as well. It’s more to being a great QB than having good stats and numbers.

Seattle problems are on him? :wtf:
He holding that shyt together.
Name one player on Seattle offense that you'd want starting on your team? The two WR that are made by Russ are the only ones .
 

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He's a goofy. He'll bash Russ but big up Big Ben.

Ben has been carried by a great defense and running game in the start and end of his career. In the middle years he had the Killer B's. Alot of the talent Ben played with were successful before and/or after him. When he's been called upon to be THAT guy he's fallen on his face more times than not.

Meanwhile, Russ on the other hand has played more years WITHOUT the LOB and Beast Mode than with them. Yet, outside of this season due to Russ being hurt, Seattle still won with the lack of a running game and a historically bad defense.

Ben has played for 2 HOF coaches who's won games without him. And Russ played with Pete Carroll, who's was phenomenal is college but average outside of Russ.

If the argument is that Russ isn't an all time great yet, then I get it because he isn't in that upper echelon (Brady, Montana, Manning, etc.), but to prop up Ben like he belongs in that category instead is ridiculous. Russ is holding Seattle together by a thread. He deserves better.
 

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Seattle problems are on him? :wtf:
He holding that shyt together.
Name one player on Seattle offense that you'd want starting on your team? The two WR that are made by Russ are the only ones .

Notice I said some and not all of them :comeon:

Dude always falls off a cliff 2nd of the season performance wise and that isn’t all on Pete Carroll. He’s been the PG13 in that regard. Great in the first half, meh in the 2nd and that’s why he’s never been a viable MVP candidate.
 

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It depend on what you define an all time great QB as.

If an all time great QB is one of the 25 best QBs to play, Russ definitely belongs in the convo

If you narrowing all time great QBs to only 10 or 15 guys, then no you’re probably not gonna consider him all time great.

I want to see who else is on his list before I really start throwing shade because Russ is top 30 at the least, but if he says Russ ain't and Ben is then

:camby:
 

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Cam Newton would say otherwise.

Nah.
Its a well known fact that I have a true wouldn't spit on him if he was on fire type hatred for cam and I wouldn't even define his career by that one play.
That one play is for nikkas like Leon Lett and David Tyree who have 0 other reasons for you to remember them by
 
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