Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Putin can barely keep the disinformation campaign going on in his own country, but they want us to believe dude has succefully invaded every random social media platform on the entire web.

The people who believe Putin to be this all powerful genius guy are on the same level of insanity as those Q-anon weirdo's. Same rhetoric, agressivness and stupidness.
What makes you think Putin has no allies? He doesn't need to control shyt directly. There are folks around the globe who hate the west and will repeat pro Putin talking points without the need of a controller.
 

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What makes you think Putin has no allies? He doesn't need to control shyt directly. There are folks around the globe who hate the west and will repeat pro Putin talking points without the need of a controller.
IDK bruh. "hates the west" always seems weird to me.

A lot of countries are annoyed with the impunity of the west, but a lot of that comes with envy.

Like, Africa clearly doesn't HATE the west, but they will use opportunities to call out what they feel is arrogance.
 

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It’s too late breh the men around Putin know that the man has to go or they go down with him and the country is done. Biden was just stating the quiet part out load.

The thing is I keep seeing that narrative and I feel like alot of the posters on here dont understand just what happens in these authoritarian countries when the sanctions hit. If it was just about losing soldiers by the thousands and being hit with sanctions no dictatorship would last. fukking bum ass dictators in Latin banana republics and landlocked African countries stay in power for decades just off the strength of "fukk America look what they did to us."

All this talk of Russia splintering into different republics or a coup happening over night, I just dont see it. Theres 140 million people in that country. My bet is at least 20 million are actual hardcore Putinists. Thats all they really need to crush the rest of the populace into submission. And even tho theyre losing right now badly, we're in a very delicate phase right now. This shyt could easily end up like the Korean war, where the Communists almost took the South, then the UN/US got involved and we pushed them back to their border only to get pushed back by China getting involved and ending on a stalemate.

If Russia as a whole society ends up militarizing as a result of this thats not good, we need to keep them internally divided. Thats why the President saying Putin has to go is a bad thing, Russian morale being low and divided is contributing to all these losses and desertions. Its best to give them the rope then kick away the chair, dont give them a cause to rally behind.
 

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I see the "America is a hypocrite..." crew is back. You're absolutely right, America is at the top of the list of hypocritical countries, now what?

You either want to live the life you're living now while engaging in organizing and the political process to push for changing what you consider the morally reprehensible hypocrisy that's on display. Or you want to continue to live your life and have the ability to criticize the country, the government and it's past at will with only the fear of people unfollowing you on social media and calling you misguided online elsewhere?

But if you're concerned with cleaning up our own house, what are you doing to change things?
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I'm really tired of Democrats always apologizing for or walking back what they said when they were clearly right :martin: have some balls for once

Of course Putin needs to be removed from power, he's committing war crimes and fukking up the world economy for no reason.
 

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HOLD UP...WHAT?!???







With Russia distracted, Azerbaijan moves troops into disputed region where it fought with Armenia.


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Azerbaijani soldiers walked into a trench while training in 2020. That year, Azerbaijan and Armenia fought a war over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.Credit...Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
As the grinding war in Ukraine enters its second month, tensions flared in another former Soviet region, where Azerbaijan and Armenia fought a war in 2020, as Azerbaijani troops moved into territory patrolled by Russian peacekeepers, Moscow said in a statement on Saturday.

The Russian defense ministry said that the Azerbaijani forces had launched four drone strikes against the army of Nagorno-Karabakh, a disputed mountain enclave that is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan but claims independence and is closely allied with Armenia.

The Azerbaijani forces installed a surveillance post, the Russian ministry said, adding that it had called for troops to be withdrawn from the area. The ministry said the events had occurred on Thursday and Friday.

Azerbaijan went to war and emerged victorious over Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh in the fall of 2020, recapturing some of the territory it had lost during a war that followed the Soviet collapse in the early 1990s.

Russia did not take sides in that fight, but President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia brokered an agreement to end the conflict. He also sent about 2,000 peacekeeping troops to the area, demonstrating Russia’s role as a potent arbiter in the Caucasus region, which has been plagued by conflicts and volatility.

But with Mr. Putin preoccupied with the war in Ukraine, the most audacious foreign policy move of his 21-year tenure at the helm of Russia, foreign policy experts said other powers in the region might treat the situation as a window of opportunity.

Azerbaijan’s defense ministry disputed Moscow’s version of events. The ministry said in a statement that “illegal” Armenian armed units attempted an act of sabotage but had to retreat after “immediate measures” were applied.

The statement reiterated Azerbaijan’s commitment to a three-way deal it signed with Armenia and Russia in November 2020 to end the military conflict over the Nagorno-Karabakh region after more than a month of bloodshed.

Arayik Arutyunyan, the head of the Nagorno-Karabakh republic, said he had declared martial law, without mentioning Azerbaijan and specifying the reasons. In a meeting with military attachés, Levon Ayvazyan, an Armenian military official, accusedAzerbaijan of violating previous agreements, saying that so far “negotiations have not yielded positive results.”

On Friday, Jalina Porter, deputy spokeswoman at the U.S. State Department, said that the United States was “deeply concerned about the movement of Azerbaijani troops in Nagorno-Karabakh.” In response, Azerbaijan’s foreign ministry said such an entity did not exist and that Azerbaijan “is on its sovereign territories.”
 
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I'm really tired of Democrats always apologizing for or walking back what they said when they were clearly right :martin: have some balls for once

Of course Putin needs to be removed from power, he's committing war crimes and fukking up the world economy for no reason.



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