Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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We were talking about POWs last week and HRW has put up a warning to not film them

Human Rights Watch warn Ukraine against posting videos of POWs
Human Rights Watch warn Ukraine against posting videos of POWs
By SHIRA SILKOFF
Published: MARCH 17, 2022 21:44
Updated: MARCH 17, 2022 21:55

A Telegram account with close to 870,000 subscribers operated by the Ukrainian government's main security arm has taken to posting videos of captured Russian soldiers revealing personal information.
Ukraine has been urged to respect the rights of Russian prisoners of war by the international NGO Human Rights Watch (HRW), who urged Ukrainian authorities to stop posting videos of captured Russian soldiers on social media, calling it a violation of the Geneva Convention.

A Telegram account with close to 870,000 subscribers operated by the Ukrainian government's main security arm, the Security Services of Ukraine (SBU), has taken to posting videos of captured Russian soldiers who are being pressured to reveal their names, ID numbers, and other personal information, said HRW, including their parents' names and home addresses.

Additionally, the Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry runs a similar Telegram channel, on which they share the same information with close to 850,000 subscribers. The Ministry claims on the channel's page that their aim is to share information "about captured and killed Russian soldiers in Ukraine since the beginning of the occupation," saying that it is for people with relatives and friends "participating in the war against our people - here you can get information about their fate."

However, HRW has released a statement urging these Ukrainian government bodies to cease this practise, saying that "such treatment of prisoners of war, or POWs, violates protections under the Geneva Conventions intended to ensure dignified treatment of captured combatants on all sides."

“The obligation to protect POWs from being objects of public curiosity, as well as protecting them from intimidation or humiliation, is part of the broader requirement to ensure their humane treatment and protect their families from harm,” said HRW Senior Legal Advisor Aisling Reidy. “The Ukrainian authorities should stop posting these videos online.”

Additionally, HRW called for social media platforms to clarify their rules regarding the posting of such videos and, if their current policies do not explicitly rule out this practise, to update the policies to prevent it from happening.

Although HRW said in their statement that they had contacted the SBU and Interior Ministry regarding their request for the websites to be removed on March 10, they had yet to receive a response.

HRW also reminded Ukrainian officials that the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has made it clear that "any material that allows viewers or readers to identify individual prisoners should not be transmitted, published or broadcast."

They urged Ukraine's government to work with the ICRC to ensure it has access to all prisoners of war and stressed that any data on POWs is handled in accordance with the Geneva Conventions.

However, HRW clarified, while Ukraine has "clear obligations that it must uphold, including lawful treatment of POWs," it has also documented "extensive laws-of-war violations and apparent war crimes by Russian forces."

In a similar line, Ukraine's Defense Ministry issued a warning on March 16 to their soldiers regarding the treatment of Russian war prisoners.

"Ukrainian serviceman must be clearly aware that according to all the rules of warfare, "it is FORBIDDEN to kill prisoners of war," read the statement.

"Always remember that: we are a cultural nation, which, despite all the desire to avenge the wrongs done to our country, must act in a civilized manner. Therefore, it is not necessary to kill those who surrendered, because an armed enemy is the responsibility not of an individual (commander), but of Ukraine as a state responsible for its fate.

"Cruelty breeds cruelty! After all, the inhumane treatment of prisoners of war can cause a chain of revenge against their comrades, who are now held captive by the Russian occupiers," the statement continued.

"Humane treatment of prisoners will allow the international community, in particular partner countries, to demonstrate the simple truth that Ukraine fully meets the criteria of a democracy where human life, even a former enemy, remains the highest value."

The statement continues, outlining the best practises for Ukrainian soldiers to employ when a Russian soldiers surrenders or is captured.

In particular, the statement urges Ukrainian service members to "hold prisoners of war without degrading human dignity, without descending to the level of the Russian occupiers, while demonstrating the superiority of the moral values of a warrior-defender who protects his homeland from invaders."



 

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Russian defence minister Sergei Shoigu vanishes 'with heart problems' | Daily Mail Online

  • Defence minister Sergei Shoigu has not been seen for 12 days, say media reports
  • Russia's Vladimir Putin has started witch-hunt among his inner circle of advisors
  • Grew wary of close allies after US and Britain received leaks of his military plans
  • Leaks blamed for Ukraine's successful targeting of top generals and elite forces
  • Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, commander of the invasion, is under suspicion
Vladimir Putin’s war was plunged into deeper crisis today amid reports that Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has vanished from view with 'heart problems'.
Average life expectancy for a Russian man is around 66. Shoigu is 66. Might just be his time. :ld:
 

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I mean Biden is about to be in Poland which is directly neighbouring a Ukraine at war. NATO has to bare its fangs so Russia doesnt try any fukkery :whoa:
There is audacity and then there is trying to touch the defacto leader of the free world. Vlad is a stone cold killer but he's not that stupid or crazy.
 

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Andrew Roth
Wed 23 Mar 2022 08.28 EDT

The lines for sugar in Saratov were hard not to compare to the Soviet era, part of a recent run on Russian staples that have revived fears that the Kremlin’s invasion in Ukraine will lead to a virtual slide back to the shortages or endless queues of the Soviet Union.

Bags of sugar and buckwheat began disappearing from local markets in early March, just a week after Russia launched its invasion of Ukraine. And when the local mayor’s office announced that it would hold special markets for people to buy the staples last week, hundreds showed up.

“People are sharing tips about where to get sugar. This is crazy,” said Viktor Nazarov, who said that his grandmother had tasked him with visiting the special market last weekend to stock up. “It’s sad and it’s funny. It feels like a month ago was fine and now we’re talking about the 1990s again, buying products because … we’re afraid they’ll disappear.”

After an hour and a half waiting at the city’s main square, he was limited to buying one bag of five kilograms, he said.

Other videos shared on social media have shown fights for sugar in markets in other cities in Russia, all while officials have maintained that the shortage is part of an artificial crisis.

“What is happening with sugar today is aimed at creating a panic mood in society,” said the governor of Russia’s Omsk region, which is facing similar shortages, on Tuesday.

The sudden shortages are a first taste of what is going to be a hard year for Russia, marked by a massive economic contraction, high inflation and an unprecedented cutoff from the world for a globalised economy.

“I think we are steadily going back to a USSR,” said Elina Ribakova, deputy chief economist for the Institute of International Finance, indicating that the Russian government would likely continue to close off from the world economy. “I’m not seeing it as a temporary shock and then we’re going to go back to the liberal democracy and reintegration into the world, unless there is a change in government.”


As Russian troops pressed forward in Ukraine, stores in some big cities have reported shortages of essential products such as tampons. Prices on imported goods, such as Tide detergent, clothing, or toothpastes, have also skyrocketed as the rouble tumbled in value.

For the rise in price on basic goods, the government has blamed panic buying and speculators, saying it has more than enough supply to satisfy demand.

“As in 2020, I want to reassure our citizens now: we fully provide ourselves with sugar and buckwheat. There is no need to panic and buy up these goods – there are enough of them for everyone,” said Viktoria Abramchenko, a Russian deputy prime minister, in a public address.

More worryingly, medicines such as insulin have begun disappearing from pharmacy shelves. Some polls have indicated that Russian doctors are facing shortages of more than 80 medicines at pharmacies, including insulin and a popular children’s anti-inflammation medicine. Once again Russian officials blamed panic buyers, noting that most western pharmaceutical companies have said that they will not limit shipments of essential medicines to Russia.

But as Russia’s economy contracts, inflation is expected to skyrocket as high as 20% this year, said Ribakova. For ordinary Russians, she said, that would mean “poverty. Poverty and desperation.”

“People were so busy with just surviving,” she said. “Getting basic drugs, basic foods, surviving on minimal pensions … people are coming very skinny to this crisis. They don’t have savings, they were barely surviving before, and now they’ll be spending days in queues and lacking access to basic healthcare and drugs.”

Natalia Zubarevich, an expert on the economy of Russia’s regions, noted that the main reason for the recent shortages was not just the damage from sanctions but also the failure of supply chains and hesitancy to make big purchases while the value of the rouble remains so volatile.

“I understand that the instincts of the Soviet-Russian people don’t change,” she said during a recent radio show, noting how sugar was a traditional item to purchase during unsure economic times. “But I’d think like this: If you have a beloved pet, think about where the pet food is made and from what … I was berating myself because I bought too little [medical pet food]. This isn’t sugar. I should have bought more.”

Thousands of employees have been affected as large foreign companies including Ikea and McDonald’s have temporarily exited the market. Meanwhile, local factories and other employers have also begun halting production. Earlier this month, AvtoVAZ, one of the country’s largest automakers, had been forced to halt production of certain lines of vehicles.

And Moscow’s Sheremetyevo, the country’s largest airport, said on Monday that it would have to furlough a fifth of its staff and halt further hiring as passenger traffic slows due to sanctions.

In the longer term, entire sectors of the Russian economy could be at risk, as the lack of access to western component parts could affect everything from air travel to production of consumer goods.

“Economic growth is sacrificed for the sake of this wartime economy,” said Maria Shagina of the Finnish Institute of International Affairs and the Geneva International Sanctions Network.

The additional risks and volatility of operating in Russia now mean that many companies will decide not to reenter the market, she said.

And the recent exodus of the youngest and the brightest of the country makes it unclear who will step in to prepare alternatives.

“It is possible that a couple of years down the road that there will be Russian alternatives for products from Microsoft to tampons but it will take time to produce,” said Ribakova. “And the question is who will produce that.”
 
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How you the head of the army and your daughter out here taking pictures in ukraine colors :scust:

Putin got the puters putin on ol boy :damn:

But I get the feeling that he wasnt the rat...
THAT right there is a good reason as to why the russians were taking MASSIVE Ls like that... i couldnt wrap my head around it. Im sure theres some level of incompetence and rustiness but 5 major generals kia, hundreds of destroyed or captured vehicles and over 10k dead in a little less than a month? :whoa:

They got a rat problem and now Putins gonna go into full blown Stalin mode, its gonna get very very ugly inside Russia.

Unprecedented western unison and support+battle frenzied ukrainians that know the home turf × low morale russian conscripts being double crossed at the highest level = :ufdup:





It was evident there was a rat from jump.

Come on, man. Biden and Blinken were reporting Russian plans in real time as they were being planned.

No technical surveillance is THAT good. We had a man on the inside the whole time. I thought that was common sense.
 

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It was evident there was a rat from jump.

Come on, man. Biden and Blinken were reporting Russian plans in real time as they were being planned.

No technical surveillance is THAT good. We had a man on the inside the whole time. I thought that was common sense.

But at that level? shyt if the russians put in trump we already repaid them in kind then :picard:

And nah it aint common sense the russians were poppin too much shyt, almost claiming to be airtight. Someone as calculated as putin wouldnt have taken that risk if there was a possible rat in the camp. Dudes cabinet is surrounded by kgb colonels loyal to the agenda. 2014 and the georgia war went nothing like this.

The question now is will these purges affect the war effort for better or worse, and will it cause an atmosphere were theyll either seek a coup or bring in fresh new hardliners that would seek to escalate?
 

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It was evident there was a rat from jump.

Come on, man. Biden and Blinken were reporting Russian plans in real time as they were being planned.

No technical surveillance is THAT good. We had a man on the inside the whole time. I thought that was common sense.

You don't think the US is that good?
 

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It was evident there was a rat from jump.

Come on, man. Biden and Blinken were reporting Russian plans in real time as they were being planned.

No technical surveillance is THAT good. We had a man on the inside the whole time. I thought that was common sense.

The alphabet boys have been dealing with, analyzing and planning against the Russians since WWII. We just LeBron telling the raptors what plays they gonna run before it happens.

Too bad our intelligence isn't that good in regards to China
 

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There is audacity and then there is trying to touch the defacto leader of the free world. Vlad is a stone cold killer but he's not that stupid or crazy.
Agree. That's also why I don't think this conflict will escalate in a direct confrontation with NATO and that they are most likely reinforcing just in case.
 
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