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Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)
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As Russia’s Military Stumbles, Its Adversaries Take Note
President Vladimir Putin could still reduce cities in Ukraine to rubble, officials say. But European countries that once feared Russia say they are not so scared anymore.
When it comes to war, generals say that “mass matters.”
But nearly two weeks into President Vladimir V. Putin’s invasion of Ukraine — Europe’s largest land war since 1945 — the image of a Russian military as one that other countries should fear, let alone emulate, has been shattered.
Ukraine has shot down military transport planes carrying Russian paratroopers, downed helicopters and blown holes in Russia’s convoys using American anti-tank missiles and armed drones supplied by Turkey, these officials said, citing confidential U.S. intelligence assessments.
The Russian soldiers have been plagued by poor morale as well as fuel and food shortages. Some troops have crossed the border with MREs (meals ready to eat) that expired in 2002, U.S. and other Western officials said, and others have surrendered and sabotaged their own vehicles to avoid fighting.
That Russia has so quickly abandoned surgical strikes, instead killing civilians trying to flee, could damage Mr. Putin’s chances of winning a long-term war in Ukraine. The brutal tactics may eventually overwhelm Ukraine’s defenses, but they will almost certainly fuel a bloody insurgency that could bog down Russia for years, military analysts say. Most of all, Russia has exposed to its European neighbors and American rivals gaps in its military strategy that can be exploited in future battles.
“The Kremlin spent the last 20 years trying to modernize its military,” said Andrei V. Kozyrev, the foreign minister for Russia under Boris Yeltsin, in a post on Twitter. “Much of that budget was stolen and spent on mega-yachts in Cyprus. But as a military advisor you cannot report that to the President. So they reported lies to him instead. Potemkin military.”
The whole world sees your military looking crazy
OfTheCross
Veteran
The updates aren't coming as fast and furious as before...
A bit of news fatigue I guess.
they can say whatever they want, there are European countries who would not allow Ukraine into NATO. It's almost like WW3 over Ukraine isn't worth it. It's almost like this was always known and dangling NATO to end up leaving Ukrainians out to dry was always what was going to happen.They were neutral...
fukk being neutral if i'm Ukraine... nobody is coming to help when Russia pulls this shyt... I'm straight up telling Russia that they are joining NATO
While I can understand the reluctance to risk it, do you really think Putin would be willing to start WW3 over Ukraine?
Then again he was willing to tank his country's economy and make himself a pariah over it...
While I can understand the reluctance to risk it, do you really think Putin would be willing to start WW3 over Ukraine?
Then again he was willing to tank his country's economy and make himself a pariah over it...
just imagine the stupidest possible outcome and that is probably how this is gonna play out.
NATO strategy if it included Ukraine would have to recognize the historical and current threat Russia posed, defenses would be built up. Had they been added into NATO when W suggested it, you would have a place with overwhelming Russian support in Crimea cemented in NATO. Some separatist or Russian Nationalist commits a terrorist attack and that's all it takes for the two global nuclear superpowers to be at the brink? Seems less than ideal.While I can understand the reluctance to risk it, do you really think Putin would be willing to start WW3 over Ukraine?
if the Ukrainian people were the center of the concern neutralization would always have been the play and still would be today and every day going forward. It's pretty clear to my mind they're not. A regional power and superpower are just doing what they do - fighting over energy reserves, attempting to weaken the other, expanding their geopolitical influence.
Pedro Negro
Reefer & Sneakers