Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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Russian Mil Telegram saying that official Russian policy now is to send any Javelins, MANPADS or other sensivitive tech captured from Ukrainians to Iran and North Korea to be reverse engineered lol theyre desperate and playing dirty

I just saw this on CNN.
 

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Russian Mil Telegram saying that official Russian policy now is to send any Javelins, MANPADS or other sensivitive tech captured from Ukrainians to Iran and North Korea to be reverse engineered lol theyre desperate and playing dirty

They're trying to reverse engineer our 1996 shyt :dead:

Orcs haven't left 1988.
 

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They're trying to reverse engineer our 1996 shyt :dead:

Orcs haven't left 1988.

Iran reversed engineered our even older MANPADS back in the day. They been known to acquire MANPADS from various sources, including the United States, through illicit channels or captured from other countries. In some cases, Iran has attempted to reverse engineer and replicate these weapons.
One notable example of Iran's alleged reverse engineering of US-manufactured MANPADS occurred in 2012 when Iran claimed to have replicated a captured US RQ-170 Sentinel drone. According to Iranian officials, they were able to reverse engineer the drone's technology, including its communications and navigation systems, and build their own version of the drone.

However, it should be noted that Iran's claims of successfully reverse engineering US-manufactured weapons or technology have not always been independently verified, and it is unclear how successful their efforts have been.
 

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Russian Mil Telegram saying that official Russian policy now is to send any Javelins, MANPADS or other sensivitive tech captured from Ukrainians to Iran and North Korea to be reverse engineered lol theyre desperate and playing dirty
Most likely those end up in China but they can't say China for obvious reasons
 

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How Russia Supplies Its War Machine
Following the trail of chips and other tech gear from China, Turkey, Hong Kong and elsewhere to Ukraine’s battlefields

Nathaniel TaplinMarch 10, 2023 at 5:30 am ET

For the U.S. and Europe, China in particular poses a huge dilemma. Further escalating technology sanctions and enforcement might succeed in curbing some chip and equipment flows. It might also simply push China to further increase assistance to Russia—including, potentially, of the lethal sort, which it has so far eschewed.

Turkey, on the other hand, is a NATO member with veto power over key decisions like whether to admit Sweden and Finland to the military alliance. That limits U.S. and European leverage with the country on other matters.

That lack of leverage shows. Overall shipments to Russia from its developed-world trading partners have plummeted since February 2022. Monthly exports from Germany are down around 60% in dollar terms, while those from Italy and Japan have fallen around 30%. But exports from Turkey have roughly doubled to about $1 billion a month—a bit more than Italy was shipping before the war. Shipments from China, meanwhile, reached nearly $9 billion in December, up from an average of $6.7 billion a month in the last quarter of 2021, according to figures from data provider CEIC.

And trade in certain types of dual-use goods like semiconductors, used to power household appliances and military hardware alike, has been especially brisk. China, both a significant manufacturer of low-end microchips and the world’s top chip importer, shipped $179 million of integrated circuits to Russia in 2022, its customs data show. That was up from just $74 million in 2021. Hong Kong’s exports of processors and controllers to Russia, which fell sharply in the opening months of the war, had by the fourth quarter of 2022 recovered to $53 million according to government data, or about 85% of exports in the same period of 2021. The Russian customs data from C4ADS show that its semiconductor imports had nearly recovered to prewar levels by late 2022 and that more than half of that came from China.


A foreign-trade container terminal in Qingdao, China.Photo: Cfoto/DDP/Zuma Press
A lack of detailed publicly available trade data—China’s public trade statistics, for example, show destinations of goods but not sellers’ information—often makes it difficult to determine whether semiconductor shipments contain items specifically sanctioned by the U.S. and its allies. Certainly, though, some of the changes in trade patterns are large and unusual enough to raise eyebrows.

Turkey, for example, in 2021 imported about $831 million of transistors, diodes and similar semiconductors, according to United Nations data, and exported about $79,000 worth to Russia that year. In 2022 it imported nearly $1.7 billion—and exported $3.2 million worth to Russia. Turkey’s total exports of electronics and electrical machinery to Russia also more than doubled to $559 million.

Trade flows through Armenia exhibit a similar pattern. In 2021 it imported less than $1 million of integrated circuits. In 2022 it imported nearly $19 million and shipped $13 million to Russia. Total exports of electrical machinery and electronics to Russia rose from $12 million to $462 million.

Both Turkey and China have declined to join Western sanctions on Russia. In late February Turkey’s foreign minister said that the country doesn’t export electronics used in the defense industry to Russia. China says the U.S. sanctions have no basis in international law and has said that claims its exports aid Russia’s war effort are speculative.

Part of the problem is that the global semiconductor business is so enormous, particularly at the lower end. The industry shipped over one trillion units in 2021, according to the Semiconductor Industry Association.

Cutting-edge chips and semiconductor-equipment manufacturing are dominated by just a few companies in U.S.-aligned jurisdictions like the Netherlands and Taiwan, to say nothing of the U.S. itself. The number of items shipped—and the number of actual end-users, including chip plants and cellphone makers—are also far fewer, making monitoring and punishment far more straightforward. American chip-export controls decimated Huawei’s smartphone business, for example. But for more commoditized items like older chips or other machine parts, with legions of buyers and sellers often connected through complex networks of wholesalers and retailers, trying to enforce sanctions is another matter.

That said, such sanctions are probably having one important effect: costing Russia money. It now needs to pay middlemen more, cannibalize chips from consumer appliances or ask direct suppliers to take on substantially more risk. As with the West’s price cap targeting Russian oil, forcing a premium or a discount onto Russia’s trade in commoditized items like oil or basic machinery may prove easier than halting it altogether.Going to the source and trying to completely choke off semiconductor shipments from China might work. Or it could backfire, putting already-strained Sino-U.S. relations on a steeper, potentially even more dangerous downward trajectory.

U.S. defense contractors’ inability to quickly replenish weaponry such as missiles and munitions for Ukraine has led Pentagon officials to argue that industry consolidation has gone too far and raised questions about how prepared America is for conflict. Illustration: Adele Morgan
Write to Nathaniel Taplin at nathaniel.taplin@wsj.com

The War in Ukraine, One Year On
 

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Russia is boosting Chinas nuclear weapons and helping them create plutonium, as well as directing 2 new nuclear reactors inside China. Im sure this is part of the reason China is going out of its way to shield the Russians and considering arming them in this war. These two are covering the holes in each others defense, China for Russias conventional military and tech needs and Russia for Chinas energy needs like oil and nuclear power (and weapons). Ukraine is not a one off. Its the start of something bigger.

Gog and Magog prophecy looking kinda crazy and Im not even religious.
 
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