Russia's Invasion of Ukraine (Official Thread)

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May be an image of 2 people and text that says 'when you can't surrender unconditionally cause it's not your country'
 

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Russian occupiers have delivered the first 650 tones of grain from Luhansk Oblast to Russia saying "there is a lot of grain" here, Russian media wrote. Such pictures & wording remind Ukrainians 1920s & Soviet collectivization of "farmland for people" which ended in Holodomor.
This is the first case of transporting Ukrainian grain by occupiers not just to Crimea ports but directly to Russia.

 

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pretty troubling

I saw they're running low on soviet small arms ammo as well(idk how that's possible), earlier in the conflict they were even importing stuff from Sudan .





The guns in addition to the ammunition will be a problem eventually. At least according to that chart, Russia easily has more artillary than the USA plus all NATO nations combined. Which means that we could import ALL of our artillery to them and they'd still be outgunned.



Tank forces are pretty lopsided too:

 

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Russia has a hunger plan. Vladimir Putin is preparing to starve much of the developing world as the next stage in his war in Europe. 1/16

In normal times, Ukraine is a leading exporter of foodstuffs. A Russian naval blockade now prevents Ukraine from exporting grain. 2/16

If the Russian blockade continues, tens of millions of tons of food will rot in silos, and tens of millions of people in Africa and Asia will starve. 3/16

The horror of Putin's hunger plan is so great that we have a hard time apprehending it. We also tend to forget how central food is to politics. Some historical examples can help. 4/16

The idea that controlling Ukrainian grain can change the world is not new. Both Stalin and Hitler wished to do so. 5/16

For Stalin, Ukraine's black earth was to be exploited to build an industrial economy for the USSR. In fact, collectivized agriculture killed about four million Ukrainians. 6/16

Notably, as people began to die in large numbers, Stalin blamed the Ukrainians themselves. Soviet propaganda called those who drew attention to the famine "Nazis." 7/16

Actual Nazis had related ideas. They liked the idea of controlling Ukrainian agriculture. This was in fact Hitler's central war aim. 8/16

Hitler wished to redirect Ukrainian grain from the Soviet Union to Germany, in the hope of starving millions of Soviet citizens. 9/16

The Second World War was fought for Ukraine and in considerable measure in Ukraine, between dictators who wanted to control food supplies. 10/16

Russian memory politics prepared the way for a 21st-century hunger plan. Russians are told that Stalin's famine was an accident and that Ukrainians are Nazis. This makes theft and blockade seem acceptable. 11/16

Putin's hunger plan is, I believe, meant to work on three levels. First, it is part of a larger attempt to destroy the Ukrainian state, by cutting off its exports. 12/16

Putin's hunger plan is also meant to generate refugees from North Africa and the Middle East, areas usually fed by Ukraine. This would generate instability in the EU. 13/16

Finally, and most horribly, a world famine is a necessary backdrop for a Russian propaganda campaign against Ukraine. Actual mass death is needed as the backdrop for a propaganda contest. 14/16

When the food riots begin, and as starvation spreads, Russian propaganda will blame Ukraine, and call for Russia's territorial gains in Ukraine to be recognized, and for all sanctions to be lifted. 15/16

Russia is planning to starve Asians and Africans in order to win its war in Europe. This is a new level of colonialism, and the latest chapter of hunger politics. 16/16

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It's looking bad for ukr, they don't have enough soldiers to do counteroffensives. They have been running a defensive war and waiting for the Russians to exhaust themselves which isn't happening.

The Russians can't counterattack either but the problem is a stalemate is a loss for ukr.

I think ukr needs to stop playing and call up at least a million soldiers
 

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It's looking bad for ukr, they don't have enough soldiers to do counteroffensives. They have been running a defensive war and waiting for the Russians to exhaust themselves which isn't happening.

The Russians can't counterattack either but the problem is a stalemate is a loss for ukr.

I think ukr needs to stop playing and call up at least a million soldiers

It's not soldiers needed, it's weaponry

A million soldiers means shyt :russ:
 
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