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yeah, in fact, it will. if they lose 2020 because they pushed a Walmart and Wall Street candidate, they'll have to realize they need to go Left.
1. You just prefaced pure speculation about the future decisions of people you've never met with "in fact".
2. The only thing certain in your plan is that we'll get another Republican administration, and depending on Mueller that Republican could be Donald goddamn Trump.

Great plan.
 

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You boys love just doing anything except ASKING me what my position is since you claim to give a fukk about it.

When have I ever said we should "build a wall"

The point is to give him some cash, the SLOW WALK the project. Cause the wall isn't going to cost 5 billion.

Problem is you haven't given any good reason for why the Dems should give him any cash for it in the first place.

The public is not on Trump's side and 60% of the country doesn't want a wall at all, and the majority blame Trump for the shutdown. The Democrats have literally nothing to gain by giving in to Trump.


The Democrats won the House because people wanted Trump put in check. For them to win and then immediately cave to him would be a terrible look.
 
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Problem is you haven't given any good reason for why the Dems should give him any cash for it in the first place.

The public is not on Trump's side and 60% of the country doesn't want a wall at all, and the majority blame Trump for the shutdown. The Democrats have literally nothing to gain by giving in to Trump.


The Democrats won the House because people wanted Trump put in check. For them to win and then immediately cave to him would be a terrible look.
I want to end the shutdown.

Trump has the cards on the shutdown.

Dems have the cards on actually passing laws outside of the shutdown.
 

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I want to end the shutdown.
Cool. Ask Trump to open the government. The longer he keeps it closed, the more he suffers.

Imagine what will happen to Trump when the economy starts tanking.

You say "Trump has all the cards in the shutdown" but never specify what cards you're talking about.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e-down-pelosis-are-up/?utm_term=.1a28a2166994

Trump is moving the polls: His are down, and Pelosi’s are up



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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) speaks during a news conference on Thursday on Capitol Hill in Washington. (Carolyn Kaster/AP)

Polls agree: Americans don't like government shutdown and they blame Trump - CNNPolitics
Polls agree: Americans don't like shutdown and they blame Trump

By Jennifer Agiesta and Grace Sparks, CNN



Updated 3:14 PM ET, Fri January 18, 2019
 
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I want to end the shutdown.

Trump has the cards on the shutdown.

:what: he doesn't have the cards at all, that's what you don't seem to get

Trump gets most of the blame for the shutdown regardless of how long it goes on. Shutting the government down for a year or some ridiculous shyt is to going to easily hand 2020 to the Democrats.
 
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I want to end the shutdown.

Trump has the cards on the shutdown.

Dems have the cards on actually passing laws outside of the shutdown.


What cards do you think he holds?

Other than the power to start and stop it?

Dems need to power punch this cracker in throat constantly with the fact that this Trump shutdown is only because his fans hates brown and black immigrants.
 

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Pelosi Statement on Trump Speech - Speaker Nancy Pelosi

Pelosi Statement on Trump Speech
JANUARY 19, 2019

San Francisco — Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement in advance of the President’s address:

“Democrats were hopeful that the President was finally willing to re-open government and proceed with a much-needed discussion to protect the border.

“Unfortunately, initial reports make clear that his proposal is a compilation of several previously rejected initiatives, each of which is unacceptable and in total, do not represent a good faith effort to restore certainty to people’s lives. It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House, and taken together, they are a non-starter. For one thing, this proposal does not include the permanent solution for the Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs and supports.

“Democrats support smart, effective border security solutions:

  • Increased infrastructure investments at our ports of entry including additional ports and roads;
  • Advanced technology to scan for drugs, weapons and contraband where the vast majority of drugs come in to our country and advanced technology to detect unauthorized crossings;
  • More customs personnel including filling the more than 3,000 customs and border patrol vacancies; and
  • More immigration judges.
“Next week, Democrats will pass a package of six bills agreed to by House and Senate negotiators and other legislation to re-open government so that we can fully negotiate on border security proposals.

“The President must sign these bills to re-open government immediately and stop holding the American people hostage with this senseless shutdown. Each day he prolongs this needless crisis, Coast Guardsmen, FBI agents, border patrol officers, TSA agents, and hundreds of thousands more workers are forced to live without knowing how they can feed their families or pay their bills.

“The President has taken pride in shutting down government. Now, he must take action to open up government.”
 

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What cards do you think he holds?

Other than the power to start and stop it?

Dems need to power punch this cracker in throat constantly with the fact that this Trump shutdown is only because his fans hates brown and black immigrants.
Dem's haven't even asked for anything.

Pelosi responded by saying "yes all we want is something for illegals" :snoop:
 

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Dem's haven't even asked for anything.
They have. Reopen the government. That is their request. Until then, no discussion. Even Nancy said it in her statement, all the stuff she mentioned was contingent on opening the government first and not negotiating with a guy who decides he wants to hold the government hostage.
 
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