Wow. I dunno America. An evil corner has been turned. Not sure if there is any getting out from this abyss.
RUSSIA/РОССИЯ THREAD—ASSANGE CHRGD W/ SPYING—DJT IMPEACHED TWICE-US TREASURY SANCTS KILIMNIK AS RUSSIAN AGNT
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Wow. I dunno America. An evil corner has been turned. Not sure if there is any getting out from this abyss.
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
If Comey was there would he hold a press conference?
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
He didn’t learn from the black, female lawyer.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Son. The assassins literally did an interview
:moscowmjpls:
The CIA and MI5 are definitely going to obtain some get back for all of this
thernbroom
Superstar
this man is insane
Goodbye to that hispanic vote
I still believe Stephen miller is the guy tweeting
we are in very uncharted waters.
i really believe that we are living through a profound time in American history.
for better or worse we are going to see shyt happen that we didn't think was possible three years ago.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
It's some bullshyt about something they found out about him im High School
God this shyt makes the Dems looks so fukking WEAK
THE OLD GUARD NEEDS TO GO
An inside look on why Putin is lying about the Novichok GRU officers
An inside look on why Putin is lying about the Novichok GRU officers
by Tom Rogan
| September 12, 2018 02:34 PM
On Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied that the two GRU intelligence service officers who tried to assassinate Sergei Skripal on U.K. soil this March are actually GRU intelligence officers at all.
Putin says the men are actually "civilians," who, "he hopes," will publicly share their story of innocence.
He is telling the truth in only one narrow sense: The two men, named by Britain as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov, will come forward very soon to speak publicly to Putin-friendly elements of the Russian press. They just won't come forward with truth.
Instead, they'll come forward with a quickly sculpted wilderness of mirrors and lies.
Putin needs to give the GRU and other organs of the Russian state — including its propaganda teams — time to develop a cover story about why the two men were in the U.K. during the Skripal assassination attempt, and what supposed careers they hold in Russia. That work is already underway, and will probably be done by the end of this week to Putin's satisfaction.
Then, we'll see the release of a composition far less inspiring than the works of Tchaikovsky or Rimsky-Korsakov. The Russians will concoct a story suggesting that the two men were on vacation in Britain, and perhaps even that they had good reason to be in Salisbury, where the Skripals were attacked. (Perhaps they just really, really like the steaks?)
Putin's teams will also produce witness testimony and employment records suggesting that Petrov and Boshirov had been employed in various harmless civilian jobs in Russia (garbage collectors, perhaps?) and not at GRU headquarters. The central motive here will be to present Petrov and Boshirov as two innocent men who are being slandered a British government desperate to scapegoat the Kremlin.
Russia knows its upcoming propaganda creation will be regarded by most observers for what it is — a ludicrous masterpiece of absurdity without any trace of credibility. But Putin doesn't care about that. The Russian president and former KGB colonel only cares about two broader objectives. First, he wants to use this propaganda to muddy the waters just enough to win sympathy from a few useful idiots in the West. Second, Putin wants to throw crumbs to those Western politicians who want and need an excuse to resist imposing new sanctions on Russia or Russian officials in response to this attack. The special focus here is in pushing the Austrian and Italian governments to obstruct broader European Union efforts to agree to common sanctions.
Still, there's no question that it is Putin who is most off-balance. The Russian leader is angry and embarrassed by the fact that the GRU's Skripal operation failed so spectacularly. Not only did Skripal and his daughter Yulia survive the assassination attempt, but Petrov and Boshirov also allowed their Novichok-class nerve agent dispersal device (a fake perfume bottle) to be discovered.
Even worse, they allowed the device to kill an innocent woman after she sprayed what she thought was perfume on her hands. Putin knows that callousness has infuriated the British government: Innocent British citizens have had their neural pathways interrupted and have thus suffered a brutal and painful death.
It's even worse than all that because the Russian strike team also allowed themselves to be caught on camera hundreds of times as they strolled around Britain. Oh, and prior to the attack, Petrov and Boshirov messed around with the Novichok in a non-contained environment, which allowed trace detection by British authorities in various places. These trace detections correlate perfectly with the CCTV video footage in the same areas the two men visited. In short, the GRU broke just about every intelligence tradecraft rule concerning deniable operations on the soil of a hostile adversary that retains high-capability counterintelligence services.
Putin is trying to clean up his mess as best he can. But the U.S. and its allies shouldn't let him. Putin's aggression should be countermanded by new sanctions on the Russian energy-export sector, which will make Europe safer and Putin weaker.
An inside look on why Putin is lying about the Novichok GRU officers
by Tom Rogan
| September 12, 2018 02:34 PM
On Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied that the two GRU intelligence service officers who tried to assassinate Sergei Skripal on U.K. soil this March are actually GRU intelligence officers at all.
Putin says the men are actually "civilians," who, "he hopes," will publicly share their story of innocence.
He is telling the truth in only one narrow sense: The two men, named by Britain as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov, will come forward very soon to speak publicly to Putin-friendly elements of the Russian press. They just won't come forward with truth.
Instead, they'll come forward with a quickly sculpted wilderness of mirrors and lies.
Putin needs to give the GRU and other organs of the Russian state — including its propaganda teams — time to develop a cover story about why the two men were in the U.K. during the Skripal assassination attempt, and what supposed careers they hold in Russia. That work is already underway, and will probably be done by the end of this week to Putin's satisfaction.
Then, we'll see the release of a composition far less inspiring than the works of Tchaikovsky or Rimsky-Korsakov. The Russians will concoct a story suggesting that the two men were on vacation in Britain, and perhaps even that they had good reason to be in Salisbury, where the Skripals were attacked. (Perhaps they just really, really like the steaks?)
Putin's teams will also produce witness testimony and employment records suggesting that Petrov and Boshirov had been employed in various harmless civilian jobs in Russia (garbage collectors, perhaps?) and not at GRU headquarters. The central motive here will be to present Petrov and Boshirov as two innocent men who are being slandered a British government desperate to scapegoat the Kremlin.
Russia knows its upcoming propaganda creation will be regarded by most observers for what it is — a ludicrous masterpiece of absurdity without any trace of credibility. But Putin doesn't care about that. The Russian president and former KGB colonel only cares about two broader objectives. First, he wants to use this propaganda to muddy the waters just enough to win sympathy from a few useful idiots in the West. Second, Putin wants to throw crumbs to those Western politicians who want and need an excuse to resist imposing new sanctions on Russia or Russian officials in response to this attack. The special focus here is in pushing the Austrian and Italian governments to obstruct broader European Union efforts to agree to common sanctions.
Still, there's no question that it is Putin who is most off-balance. The Russian leader is angry and embarrassed by the fact that the GRU's Skripal operation failed so spectacularly. Not only did Skripal and his daughter Yulia survive the assassination attempt, but Petrov and Boshirov also allowed their Novichok-class nerve agent dispersal device (a fake perfume bottle) to be discovered.
Even worse, they allowed the device to kill an innocent woman after she sprayed what she thought was perfume on her hands. Putin knows that callousness has infuriated the British government: Innocent British citizens have had their neural pathways interrupted and have thus suffered a brutal and painful death.
It's even worse than all that because the Russian strike team also allowed themselves to be caught on camera hundreds of times as they strolled around Britain. Oh, and prior to the attack, Petrov and Boshirov messed around with the Novichok in a non-contained environment, which allowed trace detection by British authorities in various places. These trace detections correlate perfectly with the CCTV video footage in the same areas the two men visited. In short, the GRU broke just about every intelligence tradecraft rule concerning deniable operations on the soil of a hostile adversary that retains high-capability counterintelligence services.
Putin is trying to clean up his mess as best he can. But the U.S. and its allies shouldn't let him. Putin's aggression should be countermanded by new sanctions on the Russian energy-export sector, which will make Europe safer and Putin weaker.
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
James Comey is a fukking joke.
Is Kavanaugh female, blonde and a democrat?
Lordy.
The president should have confiscated his plane and told his bytch ass to fly back on Frontier.
A fukking press conference about nothing.
If Brett was smart he would bow out gracefully now
He's probably so deep now that he can't bow out anymore with out major repercussions from the goons.
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
I have to agree, whatever "sexual misconduct" that took place while he was a teenager with another teenager is not relevant at this point. Its a weak tactic that could absolutely backfire unless its being used to document a pattern of history of him being a rapist
Andrew Prokop
In @MajorCBS's book "Mr. Trump's Wild Ride" (out next week), Ty Cobb says Stephen Miller is a key figure in Comey firing.
Cobb says Mueller has "all the handwriting" — lots of back and forth notes between Trump and Miller.
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