Russia beings bombing commercial ships delivering food to Africa

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Where u hear this from, cause some will say really the whole Ukraine thing is basically a long fought battle between the west and the brics, and the west escalated Ukraine to destroy Russia

How did the "West escalate" when Russia has been fighting in Ukraine since 2014 and full invaded in 2022?
 

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probably Market manipulation tactics

Multinational corporations pick and choose what’s produced where, and nobody wants the continent to be self efficient cause that will raise the price for everything

That’s why folks drag they feet with refineries and shyt like that, can’t have Africa industrializing too quickly according to others
IMF/World Bank being used by multinationals to force countries to privatize or shutdown certain sectors of their economy in order to get loans.
Anyone who doesn't realize the importance of BRICS as an alternative to this bullshyt system we have now is a damn c00n. Ukraine no longer belongs to the Ukrainian people. Multinationals bout to run a privatization train on that country once the war they are currently losing by a lot is over.
 

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Putin is pure evil and an egomaniac, it is critical harris wins to push back on putin and ensure he doesn't get even more dangerous and uncheck, we cant afford a trump that is easily swayed by flattery and propaganda
 

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Then I don't know. Same way I don't know how "trade" is supposed to justify an entire continent not being able to grow its own wheat.
Plenty of African,Asian, American and European countries grow wheat breh
Ukraine is just at the top
They been had this shyt on lock for a long time
Try reading up on it
 

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Where u hear this from, cause some will say really the whole Ukraine thing is basically a long fought battle between the west and the brics, and the west escalated Ukraine to destroy Russia
The west persuaded Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons to appease Russia. If the west really was intent on what you say… they wouldn’t have done that. All the other nato nations have nukes as a deterrent to Russia.
 

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Then I don't know. Same way I don't know how "trade" is supposed to justify an entire continent not being able to grow its own wheat.

It's because when it comes to agriculture certain parts of the world are better suited to growing some things than others. Its not just all about size. I learned about this in uni, but stuff like rain scarcity and climate in Africa makes growing wheat more difficult than other places like Russia and China for example. Some wheat is definitely produced in Africa, but not nearly as much as needed. Trade is important for these reasons.

IIRC things like advancing infrastructure and transport would do wonders for improving Africa's ability in this area, but with such a large continent with such varying political structures amongst the countries (and foreign actors hell bent on keeping Africa dependent) this stuff is not easy to accomplish. In any case, wheat and corn are like the biggest Ukrainian exports. It's pretty reasonable for them to trade with Africa for something like wheat.
 

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As large as Africa is, why is it getting most of its wheat from foreign sources?
Africa is a not a country, it's a very large continent where some parts are very close to Europe some to Antartica, some countries are closing in on self-sufficiency, some export but not enough to cover the demand. And production is increasing steadily but not fast enough.

USA both imports and exports many commodities, supply and demand dynamics shift very quickly depending on weather, price differentials, logistics, and on. A South African farming collective might sell their stocks to an international trader that moves it to Nigeria because they had an unusually warm summer, then Djibouti might need wheat and they turn to that same trader that buys a shipment from Ukraine cause the path is shorter yielding lower shipping costs.

It's not a dice game is a global and complex market with very many factors. US is the 4th largest producer and still a major importer, but also a major exporter.

But besides global aspects of trading, organizations like USAID and OPIC (now DFC) (i.e. the US government) used to fukk over African countries by buying crops from the US farmers and "donating" to African countries, basically letting farmers compete with free goods and virtually knocking them out.

A lot of times when people see US donating stuff, even to Ukraine and Israel, it's' really US giving weapons, stocks of products, agri products, commodities and on. Which in many cases is positive for the US and negative for the "beneficiary".

Then add lack of investments, wars, famines, corruption, droughts, poverty, colonization; virtually missing the industrial revolution and on. Takes time to grow yourself out of that.
 
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The west persuaded Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons to appease Russia. If the west really was intent on what you say… they wouldn’t have done that. All the other nato nations have nukes as a deterrent to Russia.
Ukraine needed nukes as a deterrent to Russia?

And why did the west go through the trouble to install a puppet gov in Ukraine?
 

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Ukraine needed nukes as a deterrent to Russia?
Obviously seeing how Russia is invading Ukrainian sovereign territory it signed numerous treaties to respect.

And why did the west go through the trouble to install a puppet gov in Ukraine?
How is the Ukrainian government a puppet government? They literally do the opposite everything we tell them to do. We told Zelensky to flee to America. He stayed and fought. We told Zelensky not to attack Russian infrastructure. Ukraine is bombing Moscow. We told Zelensky not to invade Russia. He invaded Russia.


Meanwhile when shyt got hot the actual puppet fled to Russia
Viktor Yanukovych - Wikipedia :umad:
 

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Forced Russia hand when they continued to move nato towards them
Sweden and Finland just joined NATO, ever look at a map?

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A lot of NATO counties border Russia. Why isn’t Russia invading him?
 
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