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Carr: 11 Charged in New 114-Count Gang Indictment in Laurens County Following Major Multi-Agency Operation

ATLANTA, GA – Attorney General Chris Carr today announced that 11 people have been charged in a new 114-count indictment in Laurens County obtained by his office’s Gang Prosecution Unit. As asserted in the indictment, the defendants are associates of a hybrid criminal street gang known as Money...

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Money Power Loyalty, or MPL, is a hybrid criminal street gang that originated in Laurens County. MPL associates typically align themselves with the 1831 Pirus and the Rollin’ 20s Neighborhood Bloods, both of which are traditional west coast Blood sets.”

Dublin, GA | Data USA

In 2022, Dublin, GA had a population of 16k people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $37,734. Between 2021 and 2022 the population of Dublin, GA declined from 16,067 to 15,985, a −0.51% decrease and its median household income grew from $34,970 to $37,734, a 7.9% increase.

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This is just the first country town that popped in my head. I’m not talking out of my ass. I interact with these people when I travel & talk to them because I want to know what crime is like before I move anywhere. And, working with kids, I’m hip to what’s going on & I see the shyt is widespread.

I’m not the one to try & pull a “gotcha” moment on. When I speak on something, especially something I see every fukking day, I know what I’m talking about.

Idk why y’all are burying your heads in the sand. It’s ok to criticize the music & listen to it, i promise. It won’t make you less black if you call out the toxicity of drill & gang culture. Kids aren’t experienced enough yet to know that shyt isn’t something to be proud of & it isn’t how the world is supposed to be. I can listen to Gucci & Future on the way to work because I can separate music from life, but KIDS DONT.

Dalzell, South Carolina

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Bruh do you think it’s still 1922, & folks in the country just sit on the porch all day with no electronics or anyway to see the outside world?

Yes it’s country but they’re connected to the shyt that’s ruining the big cities too

I’m not saying that at all. The issue is proximity and access. The population literally isn’t big enough for it to be some widespread gang violence issue.

As I’ve stated before: the article does not state how these numbers are put together and what counts. To say this is because of drill music is irresponsible imo. If you were to say that about urban communities (I wouldn’t 100 percent agree) there’s a much better argument due to proximity and numbers.

In 2022, 209 of 690 rural gun deaths were black kids. I’m supposed to believe the majority of that was drill music and gang violence? Wouldn’t the number be higher if that’s the case?

690 deaths in total tells me they aren’t counting the city type areas you used as an example, unless the number would be much higher. They are talking legit middle of nowhere towns or villages.

 

[sportscribe]

People are going to ignore it, but drill music has permeated young, urban black culture. With how ubiquitous social media is, it has reached not only rural black America, but even shores outside of America. Not kidding, I've seen kids as far as Ghana banging Chicago hoods online and taking it seriously.

Terms like "drill" and "opp" have become commonplace and part of every day dialogue of black teens, and yes, the music - or at least the machine that pushes it - is to blame.

Most drill songs are cult and d**th chants that talk of real life murders committed by gangs or are taunts and messages sent to rival gangs in a never ending cycle of violence. It has become one of the most popular "genres" today amongst black youth.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

It's more than just the music you can't forget the drugs too

 

[Mirin4rmfar]

Cities got more expensive, hood folks move out to the rural areas, shooting rises because hoodlums don't stop being hoodlums, hence the rise

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

 

[Higher Tech]

You’re naive as hell if you believe that. Most of the rural towns in GA are majority black except for the ones in the mountains & by the coast.

Black people don’t just live in big cities. I’ve researched this countless times as me & wifey are discussing moving to the country to teach. I know for a fact there are majority black areas & schools in the countysides of GA, Bama, the Carolinas, Mississippi & Louisiana. I visit her family in a small, rural all black NC town, I take my mom to eat at this country restaurant in a small black rural town in GA near Macon, & I’ve rode through & performed in many small black rural towns when I was in the band at Alabama State.

I’m in very rural MS right now. It’s almost shocking that I’ve been coming here all my life and over the last few years I’ve seen gang signs sprayed on buildings. My cousins say there’s a bunch of GD’s and VL’s out here. I never thought it would get here.

 

[I Really Mean It]

how many of these youths had a father at home?

 

[DonB90]

In before the usual suspects come in here talking about food deserts and poverty and all that goofy cac lib shyt

 

[staticshock]

I’m in very rural MS right now. It’s almost shocking that I’ve been coming here all my life and over the last few years I’ve seen gang signs sprayed on buildings. My cousins say there’s a bunch of GD’s and VL’s out here. I never thought it would get here.

But let the Coli tell it, dudes in the country are just working on farms or something smh. I’ve talked to numerous teachers in very rural black towns in GA & they’re experiencing the same shyt city schools are with gangs, fighting, & kids shooting at each other on the weekends. It’s ridiculous.

 

[B86]

It says rural youth. It ain’t enough black people living out in the country to drill on each other. Blaming the music is corny.

If we drill into the data I wonder how much of the increase is white folks shooting and killing black kids out in the woods.

Smh no matter what data comes out we still point the finger at "the white man" or elsewhere. How is there so much mental illness in our community?

You were literally raised on destructive music that pretty much only our people make, you've seen throughout your entire life how easily influenced people are, and if you know anything about psychology then you know how music can affect people....but somehow, its not the music...

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Smh no matter what data comes out we still point the finger at "the white man" or elsewhere. How is there so much mental illness in our community?

You were literally raised on destructive music that pretty much only our people make, you've seen throughout your entire life how easily influenced people are, and if you know anything about psychology then you know how music can affect people....but somehow, its not the music...

There is literally no context or data to support what you’re saying, especially in relation to the research posted.

The only thing you know that out of 690 gun victims in rural areas, 204 were black. You don’t even know what counts as rural, where the people are being killed, nor whom they’re being killed by, and the first thing brought up is drill music and black on black crime.

It’s very telling that in a population that is 90 percent white or other as the article states, you want to blame other black people. It doesn’t get any more anti-black than that.

 

[Illuminatos]

It says rural youth. It ain’t enough black people living out in the country to drill on each other. Blaming the music is corny.

If we drill into the data I wonder how much of the increase is white folks shooting and killing black kids out in the woods.

 

[romeodunn]

You’re naive as hell if you believe that. Most of the rural towns in GA are majority black except for the ones in the mountains & by the coast.

Black people don’t just live in big cities. I’ve researched this countless times as me & wifey are discussing moving to the country to teach. I know for a fact there are majority black areas & schools in the countysides of GA, Bama, the Carolinas, Mississippi & Louisiana. I visit her family in a small, rural all black NC town, I take my mom to eat at this country restaurant in a small black rural town in GA near Macon, & I’ve rode through & performed in many small black rural towns when I was in the band at Alabama State.

Respect for even considering this decision as we need as many educators of color as we can, in your opinion is there hope for fixing the educational system in majority black spaces? What can we as a community do to improve outcomes?

 

[DrBanneker]

Having an issue with blaming drill music and the such for the rise in violence isn't the same as saying drill music isn't associated with these crimes. I am 100% sure drill music is a factor in this.

The issue is explaining how and why the rise or fall in crime happens and by using music as the key cause. The gangster rap of the 90s did not cause a spike in rural violence since things were even keel until 2013. Also, and people forget this, violent crime in Black America had peaked when NWA and gangsta rap started. From 1992-1994 it topped and then began a steep decline.

If you graph record sales of gangsta rap and the change in the US Black male homicide rate there is a negative correlation. In many cities you had higher rates of homicide in the 70s and 80s when Isaac Hayes and Kool and the Gang were popular than Bone Thugs. The heroin and crack surges explain a lot of this. I am guessing the invasion of drugs into rural America is partly fueling this.

Drill music is probably the fertilizer---it isn't the seeds.