Rural Black youth firearm homicides are fastest growing and have quadrupled since 2013

[DrBanneker]

You can read the full article here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2403665

But basically what they found in firearm homicide data is that Black rural youth firearm homicides surged and since 2018 basically match rates traditionally found in urban areas.

What is crazy is that as late as 2013, Black and White rural youths had the same likelihood of dying from firearms. Then our numbers surged.

Key findings:

• Firearm-related mortality rates increased 35% for all youth between 1999 and 2022, with the greatest increase among Black youth.
• For decades, firearm-related deaths among Black youth were far more common in urban areas, but, since 2018, Black rural youth experienced firearm-related mortality rates as high as those of Black urban youth.
• The firearm-related mortality rate in Black rural youth quadrupled since 2013. The overwhelming majority of these firearm-related deaths were homicides.
• In 2013, when Black rural youth firearm deaths began to rise, Black and white rural youth had a similar risk of dying from firearms. In 2022, Black rural youth died from firearms at four times the rate of white rural youth.

 

[MoveForward]

It’s the music… This drill shyt has nikkas crashing out.

 

[Vandelay]

See Chester, PA. There's only 30k people there, but 30 people a year get killed there...for like the last 30 years. Murder rate is 100 per 100,000. For reference, everyone's favorite scapegoat Chicago is only 20 per 100,000. Everyone knows everyone that's killing or being killed in Chester.

 

[staticshock]

Drill & gang culture is poisoning the youth.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

It’s the music… This drill shyt has nikkas crashing out.

Drill & gang culture is poisoning the youth.

It says rural youth. It ain’t enough black people living out in the country to drill on each other. Blaming the music is corny.

If we drill into the data I wonder how much of the increase is white folks shooting and killing black kids out in the woods.

 

[Tair]

It says rural youth. It ain’t enough black people living out in the country to drill on each other. Blaming the music is corny.

If we drill into the data I wonder how much of the increase is white folks shooting and killing black kids out in the woods.

Yeah. I want to know the rates of solved vs unsolved murders in that area, too.

 

[staticshock]

It says rural youth. It ain’t enough black people living out in the country to drill on each other. Blaming the music is corny.

If we drill into the data I wonder how much of the increase is white folks shooting and killing black kids out in the woods.

You’re naive as hell if you believe that. Most of the rural towns in GA are majority black except for the ones in the mountains & by the coast.

Black people don’t just live in big cities. I’ve researched this countless times as me & wifey are discussing moving to the country to teach. I know for a fact there are majority black areas & schools in the countysides of GA, Bama, the Carolinas, Mississippi & Louisiana. I visit her family in a small, rural all black NC town, I take my mom to eat at this country restaurant in a small black rural town in GA near Macon, & I’ve rode through & performed in many small black rural towns when I was in the band at Alabama State.

 

[Tair]

You’re naive as hell if you believe that. Most of the rural towns in GA are majority black except for the ones in the mountains & by the coast.

Black people don’t just live in big cities. I’ve researched this countless times as me & wifey are discussing moving to the country to teach. I know for a fact there are majority black areas & schools in the countysides of GA, Bama, the Carolinas, Mississippi & Louisiana. I visit her family in a small, rural all black NC town, I take my mom to eat at this country restaurant in a small black rural town in GA near Macon, & I’ve rode through & performed in many small black rural towns when I was in the band at Alabama State.

What about your research on how music impacts youth aggression and leads to increased "drilling and gang culture." Where's your research on that?

 

[MoveForward]

nikkas think white people are out in the sticks making the murder rate quadruple for black youths? We love ignoring shyt until it’s too late. The Coli thought OD deaths were a “white thing”, now black boys have surpassed whites. There are black boys in rural areas doing their best King Von impersonation and murdering their friends and sh*t.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

You’re naive as hell if you believe that. Most of the rural towns in GA are majority black except for the ones in the mountains & by the coast.

Black people don’t just live in big cities. I’ve researched this countless times as me & wifey are discussing moving to the country to teach. I know for a fact there are majority black areas & schools in the countysides of GA, Bama, the Carolinas, Mississippi & Louisiana. I visit her family in a small, rural all black NC town, I take my mom to eat at this country restaurant in a small black rural town, & I’ve rode through & performed in many small black rural towns when I was in the band at Alabama State.

I’m aware black folks live in the country. However, none of that lends to this being a gang or drill music problem. According to the article, black youth only make up 10% of the rural population. Just by the numbers, there has to be an element of white/other on black crime for such a drastic increase.

Blaming black on black crime or drill music when it’s not mentioned who the perpetrators are in the article is anti-black victim blaming.

There’s a lot of information missing for anyone to make that conclusion.

 

[Child_Of_God]

It says rural youth. It ain’t enough black people living out in the country to drill on each other. Blaming the music is corny.

If we drill into the data I wonder how much of the increase is white folks shooting and killing black kids out in the woods.

Have you ever been to the south and midwest before?

Tons of rural Black areas there and they ain’t listening to damn country music either.

Modern rap music is largely to blame for the current state of the black community and I’m sick of you dudes gaslighting everyone into thinking it isn’t.

 

[staticshock]

What about your research on how music impacts youth aggression and leads to increased "drilling and gang culture." Where's your research on that?

I’m aware black folks live in the country. However, none of that lends to this being a gang or drill music problem. According to the article, black youth only make up 10% of the rural population. Just by the numbers, there has to be an element of white/other on black crime for such a drastic increase.

Blaming black on black crime drill when it’s not mentioned who the perpetrators are in the article is anti-black victim blaming.

There’s a lot of information missing for anyone to make that conclusion.

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Carr: 11 Charged in New 114-Count Gang Indictment in Laurens County Following Major Multi-Agency Operation

ATLANTA, GA – Attorney General Chris Carr today announced that 11 people have been charged in a new 114-count indictment in Laurens County obtained by his office’s Gang Prosecution Unit. As asserted in the indictment, the defendants are associates of a hybrid criminal street gang known as Money...

law.georgia.gov

“The Enterprise​

Money Power Loyalty, or MPL, is a hybrid criminal street gang that originated in Laurens County. MPL associates typically align themselves with the 1831 Pirus and the Rollin’ 20s Neighborhood Bloods, both of which are traditional west coast Blood sets.”

Dublin, GA | Data USA

In 2022, Dublin, GA had a population of 16k people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $37,734. Between 2021 and 2022 the population of Dublin, GA declined from 16,067 to 15,985, a −0.51% decrease and its median household income grew from $34,970 to $37,734, a 7.9% increase.

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(check the demographics)







This is just the first country town that popped in my head. I’m not talking out of my ass. I interact with these people when I travel & talk to them because I want to know what crime is like before I move anywhere. And, working with kids, I’m hip to what’s going on & I see the shyt is widespread.

I’m not the one to try & pull a “gotcha” moment on. When I speak on something, especially something I see every fukking day, I know what I’m talking about.

Idk why y’all are burying your heads in the sand. It’s ok to criticize the music & listen to it, i promise. It won’t make you less black if you call out the toxicity of drill & gang culture. Kids aren’t experienced enough yet to know that shyt isn’t something to be proud of & it isn’t how the world is supposed to be. I can listen to Gucci & Future on the way to work because I can separate music from life, but KIDS DONT.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Have you ever been to the south and midwest before?

Tons of rural Black areas there and they ain’t listening to damn country music either.

Current rap music is fukking toxic to the community.

The data says that this group in question makes up just 10% of the total rural population.

Where are all of these hundreds of thousands of black youth running around in near proximity (IN THE COUNTRY) having gang wars shooting each other listening to drill music?

The bigger point is the article itself only tells you who the victims are, not where they were killed and who killed them. It also doesn’t tell you how rural is defined.

If a black kid lives in a town with 200 people and visits his cousin in the city and just so happens to get murdered while he was there, does that count towards this uptick?

As with many research articles, this is raising more questions than answers.

Instead of thinking “hey, young black folks only make up 10 percent of the population in question, so maybe there’s so white and Mexican folks shooting them”, yall go straight to drill music, sagging pants, and black on black crime. Terrible.

 

[staticshock]

The data says that this group in question makes up just 10% of the total rural population.

Where are all of these hundreds of thousands of black youth running around in near proximity (IN THE COUNTRY) having gang wars shooting each other listening to drill music?

The bigger point is the article itself only tells you who the victims are, not where they were killed and who killed them. It also doesn’t tell you how rural is defined.

If a black kid lives in a town with 200 people and visits his cousin in the city and just so happens to get murdered while he was there, does that count towards this uptick?

As with many research articles, this is raising more questions than answers.

Instead of thinking “hey, young black folks only make up 10 percent of the population in question, so maybe there’s so white and Mexican folks shooting them”, yall go straight to drill music, sagging pants, and black on black crime. Terrible.

Bruh do you think it’s still 1922, & folks in the country just sit on the porch all day with no electronics or anyway to see the outside world?

Yes it’s country but they’re connected to the shyt that’s ruining the big cities too

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

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Carr: 11 Charged in New 114-Count Gang Indictment in Laurens County Following Major Multi-Agency Operation

ATLANTA, GA – Attorney General Chris Carr today announced that 11 people have been charged in a new 114-count indictment in Laurens County obtained by his office’s Gang Prosecution Unit. As asserted in the indictment, the defendants are associates of a hybrid criminal street gang known as Money...

law.georgia.gov

“The Enterprise​

Money Power Loyalty, or MPL, is a hybrid criminal street gang that originated in Laurens County. MPL associates typically align themselves with the 1831 Pirus and the Rollin’ 20s Neighborhood Bloods, both of which are traditional west coast Blood sets.”

Dublin, GA | Data USA

In 2022, Dublin, GA had a population of 16k people with a median age of 34.9 and a median household income of $37,734. Between 2021 and 2022 the population of Dublin, GA declined from 16,067 to 15,985, a −0.51% decrease and its median household income grew from $34,970 to $37,734, a 7.9% increase.

datausa.io

(check the demographics)







This is just the first country town that popped in my head. I’m not talking out of my ass. I interact with these people when I travel & talk to them because I want to know what crime is like before I move anywhere. And, working with kids, I’m hip to what’s going on & I see the shyt is widespread.

I’m not the one to try & pull a “gotcha” moment on. When I speak on something, especially something I see every fukking day, I know what I’m talking about.

Idk why y’all are burying your heads in the sand. It’s ok to criticize the music & listen to it, i promise. It won’t make you less black if you call out the toxicity of drill & gang culture. Kids aren’t experienced enough yet to know that shyt isn’t something to be proud of & it isn’t how the world is supposed to be. I can listen to Gucci & Future on the way to work because I can separate music from life, but KIDS DONT.

This is not a “rural” area to me. I’d say it’s far from it. It’s literally designated as a city. That by itself probably removes it from being relevant to this study.

What you’re bringing up has absolutely nothing to do with what is written in the research article. It’s just straight up anti-black victim blaming.