Cue @jwonder with the PAC 12 players are trash postI wanted earl thomas badly in that draftinstead they got a safety I knew was a total stiff in coverage, I used to watch a ton of pac-10 back then
Run The Damn Ball Kyle!!! 2020 49ers Offseason Thread.
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Every timeCue @jwonder with the PAC 12 players are trash post
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Seahawks should sign Clowney for a $37 Mill a year 8 year deal $93M guaranteed
That boy deserves it
That boy deserves it
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#ninergang
He had a great combine not realizing he had a head full of rocks.
49ers seven-round mock brings in a top-tier WR, a starting DT … and a trade
Draft simulator? We don’t use any stinkin’ draft simulators here.
For this 49ers seven-round mock, I used my telephone (both the cell phone andthe landline) to make calls about whom the 49ers have been sniffing around and relied heavily on draft guru Dane Brugler’s list of prospects at each spot.
Did I address every need? No. Will you let me hear about it in the comments section? Undoubtedly.
But I tried to make this as realistic as possible. The draft simulators — well, you can get them to come up with any scenario you want and the results often seem rosier than the likely outcomes. Instead, I plugged all the information into the Barrowsnogginator2000 and this is what popped out:
First round, pick No. 13: CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
We suspect that, due to his precise route running and his ability to shake defenders, Alabama’s Jerry Jeudy tops Kyle Shanahan’s receiver list. Jeudy is to wide receiver what Nick Bosa was to defensive end last year: They left college with an NFL veteran-like skill set and understanding of the game.
In this scenario, however, those blasted Raiders take Jeudy at pick No. 12. Shanahan is not all that distraught. In Lamb, he gets a tough-nosed receiver who wrestles away 50-50 balls and who is hard to bring to the ground. That would give the 49ers a tackle-breaking arsenal that includes George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, Lamb and — if he’s healthy — Jalen Hurd. What’s the single-season record for YAC yards?
Alternate plan: The 49ers take Alabama speedster Henry Ruggs at this spot. Or they go for players at different positions: Florida cornerback C.J. Henderson, Iowa offensive tackle Tristan Wirfs or South Carolina defensive tackle Javon Kinlaw.
*TRADE*
To make this more interesting, let’s have the 49ers trade their other first-rounder, the No. 31 overall pick. Some have speculated a team could want the 49ers’ pick to take a quarterback. But after the first four passers expected to be taken — LSU’s Joe Burrow, Alabama’s Tua Tagovailoa, Oregon’s Justin Herbert and Utah State’s Jordan Love — there might not be a stampede to get the next-best quarterback, Georgia’s Jake Fromm or Washington’s Jacob Eason.
So the 49ers trade their first-rounder to the Houston Texans, who after trading DeAndre Hopkins to the Cardinals (Thanks for that, Robert Saleh says), need a top-end wide receiver and who may want to jump in front of the teams picking early in Round 2. In return, the 49ers get Houston’s second-round pick, No. 40 overall, and its third-round pick, No. 90 overall. The 49ers have to throw in their first of two fifth-round picks (No. 156) to make it work.
Second round, pick No. 40: Jordan Elliott, DL, Missouri
The 49ers’ defense sprang to life last season after the team invested heavily in the defensive line. That line now has a hole in it after the team traded DeForest Buckner to the Colts last month.
How to fill it? Elliott would be a good choice. He’d battle Solomon Thomas to be the new starter at defensive tackle and also could be the backup behind D.J. Jones at nose tackle. Both Thomas and Jones are entering the final year on their rookie contracts. Elliott, meanwhile, had been scheduled to visit the 49ers in Santa Clara. That trip, of course, was scuttled by COVID-19 concerns, but it shows their interest. He had 44 tackles, 10 of them behind the line of scrimmage, last season and was Pro Football Focus’ highest-graded defensive tackle.
Alternate plan: This seems to be the sweet spot for the second tier of defensive tackles with TCU’s Ross Blacklock, Texas A&M’s Justin Madubuike and Oklahoma’s Neville Gallimore also possibilities. The 49ers also could take an offensive lineman here. They have video conferences set up with a pair of tackles, Boise State’s Ezra Cleveland and Houston’s Josh Jones. Michigan guard/center Cesar Ruiz also would be intriguing if he’s still on the board.
Third round, pick No. 90: Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia
Maybe it’s too optimistic to think Hall could fall this far. He led the nation in 2018 with 22 pass breakups. But he suffered a significant lower leg injury in 2019 — broken fibula, torn deltoid ligaments (in the foot) and a dislocated ankle — that kept him out of the NFL Scouting Combine. He won’t be at full strength until July. It’s possible that he’d drop farther this year than he would have in a normal year because teams won’t be able to examine him in the run-up to the draft.
Hall is strong, is physical around the line of scrimmage and is always around the ball. He might not have top-end speed. But neither does the veteran he’d learn from, Richard Sherman. Sherman and Ahkello Witherspoon are heading into the final year of their contracts, which means the team has to think about revamping the position.
Alternate plan: It’s possible some other starter-caliber cornerbacks fall this far. Mississippi State’s Cameron Dantzler, for example, ran a very pedestrian 4.64-second 40-yard dash at the combine, although he doesn’t look slow on the field. The 49ers also could take a tight end at this spot with Washington’s Hunter Bryant, Missouri’s Albert Okwuegbunam and Florida Atlantic’s Harrison Bryant possibilities.
Fifth round, pick No. 176: Daniel Thomas, SS, Auburn
This has been the 49ers’ money round in recent years because they don’t overthink the selection. The prospects may not have the ideal height (Trent Taylor, D.J. Reed), the ideal bulk (Kittle) or the ideal speed (Dre Greenlaw; he had a bad hamstring and ran his 40-yard dash in 4.73 seconds), but they all were productive in college.
Thomas fits those parameters. At 5-foot-10, he’s not the prototypical strong safety. But he had five career interceptions at Auburn, finished second on the team in tackles last season and was a team captain. His speed — he ran a 4.51-second 40 — is good for someone who weighs 215 pounds. Jaquiski Tartt is the starter at strong safety. However, he’s not signed beyond 2020 and there was a significant dropoff when he missed games in December.
Alternate plan: There are a number of intriguing strong safeties who could go anywhere from the fourth to sixth round including Maryland’s Antoine Brooks, Ohio State’s Jordan Fuller, Cal’s Jaylinn Hawkins and Middle Tennessee State’s Jovante Moffatt.
Sixth round, pick No. 210: Dalton Keene, TE, Virginia Tech
The 49ers are looking for someone who can spell Kittle for perhaps 10 or so snaps a game and to line up with Kittle in two tight end scenarios in which both are threats to catch a pass. Keene may not be quite that player, but he’d be a great addition late in the sixth round. He played a little bit of everything for the Hokies — H-back, fullback, tight end, slot tight end — and would be a good fill-in if Kyle Juszczyk got hurt. He’s already been doing a lot of the play-action, misdirection stuff that Shanahan uses.
Alternate plan: We don’t have the 49ers taking an offensive lineman yet. Maybe they get another Justin Skule-like player in this round, Auburn’s Jack Driscoll, who fits best in a zone-blocking scheme and might be able to play guard or tackle.
Seventh round, pick No. 217: Reggie Corbin, RB, Illinois
Obviously, the team would be looking for value at this stage of the draft and could pick any position (aside from punter). A running back like Corbin would be interesting, especially if the 49ers deal Matt Breida as some have suspected they might. Illinois was one of the schools that was able to conduct its pro day before the NFL shut them down. Corbin’s 6.85-second time in the 3-cone drill would have ranked first among all running backs at the combine and he also bench pressed 225 pounds 20 times — not bad for a 200 pounder.
Seventh round, pick No. 245: Cordel Iwuagwu, G, TCU
Iwuagwu played left guard for the Horned Frogs and was an honorable mention for the All-Big 12 team this past season. He’s a bit of a project but might be someone worth developing on the practice squad in 2020. He’s one of several players who have had video interviews with the 49ers, presumably with offensive line coach John Benton.
Draft simulator? We don’t use any stinkin’ draft simulators here.
For this 49ers seven-round mock, I used my telephone (both the cell phone andthe landline) to make calls about whom the 49ers have been sniffing around and relied heavily on draft guru Dane Brugler’s list of prospects at each spot.
Did I address every need? No. Will you let me hear about it in the comments section? Undoubtedly.
But I tried to make this as realistic as possible. The draft simulators — well, you can get them to come up with any scenario you want and the results often seem rosier than the likely outcomes. Instead, I plugged all the information into the Barrowsnogginator2000 and this is what popped out:
First round, pick No. 13: CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
We suspect that, due to his precise route running and his ability to shake defenders, Alabama’s Jerry Jeudy tops Kyle Shanahan’s receiver list. Jeudy is to wide receiver what Nick Bosa was to defensive end last year: They left college with an NFL veteran-like skill set and understanding of the game.
In this scenario, however, those blasted Raiders take Jeudy at pick No. 12. Shanahan is not all that distraught. In Lamb, he gets a tough-nosed receiver who wrestles away 50-50 balls and who is hard to bring to the ground. That would give the 49ers a tackle-breaking arsenal that includes George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, Lamb and — if he’s healthy — Jalen Hurd. What’s the single-season record for YAC yards?
Alternate plan: The 49ers take Alabama speedster Henry Ruggs at this spot. Or they go for players at different positions: Florida cornerback C.J. Henderson, Iowa offensive tackle Tristan Wirfs or South Carolina defensive tackle Javon Kinlaw.
*TRADE*
To make this more interesting, let’s have the 49ers trade their other first-rounder, the No. 31 overall pick. Some have speculated a team could want the 49ers’ pick to take a quarterback. But after the first four passers expected to be taken — LSU’s Joe Burrow, Alabama’s Tua Tagovailoa, Oregon’s Justin Herbert and Utah State’s Jordan Love — there might not be a stampede to get the next-best quarterback, Georgia’s Jake Fromm or Washington’s Jacob Eason.
So the 49ers trade their first-rounder to the Houston Texans, who after trading DeAndre Hopkins to the Cardinals (Thanks for that, Robert Saleh says), need a top-end wide receiver and who may want to jump in front of the teams picking early in Round 2. In return, the 49ers get Houston’s second-round pick, No. 40 overall, and its third-round pick, No. 90 overall. The 49ers have to throw in their first of two fifth-round picks (No. 156) to make it work.
Second round, pick No. 40: Jordan Elliott, DL, Missouri
The 49ers’ defense sprang to life last season after the team invested heavily in the defensive line. That line now has a hole in it after the team traded DeForest Buckner to the Colts last month.
How to fill it? Elliott would be a good choice. He’d battle Solomon Thomas to be the new starter at defensive tackle and also could be the backup behind D.J. Jones at nose tackle. Both Thomas and Jones are entering the final year on their rookie contracts. Elliott, meanwhile, had been scheduled to visit the 49ers in Santa Clara. That trip, of course, was scuttled by COVID-19 concerns, but it shows their interest. He had 44 tackles, 10 of them behind the line of scrimmage, last season and was Pro Football Focus’ highest-graded defensive tackle.
Alternate plan: This seems to be the sweet spot for the second tier of defensive tackles with TCU’s Ross Blacklock, Texas A&M’s Justin Madubuike and Oklahoma’s Neville Gallimore also possibilities. The 49ers also could take an offensive lineman here. They have video conferences set up with a pair of tackles, Boise State’s Ezra Cleveland and Houston’s Josh Jones. Michigan guard/center Cesar Ruiz also would be intriguing if he’s still on the board.
Third round, pick No. 90: Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia
Maybe it’s too optimistic to think Hall could fall this far. He led the nation in 2018 with 22 pass breakups. But he suffered a significant lower leg injury in 2019 — broken fibula, torn deltoid ligaments (in the foot) and a dislocated ankle — that kept him out of the NFL Scouting Combine. He won’t be at full strength until July. It’s possible that he’d drop farther this year than he would have in a normal year because teams won’t be able to examine him in the run-up to the draft.
Hall is strong, is physical around the line of scrimmage and is always around the ball. He might not have top-end speed. But neither does the veteran he’d learn from, Richard Sherman. Sherman and Ahkello Witherspoon are heading into the final year of their contracts, which means the team has to think about revamping the position.
Alternate plan: It’s possible some other starter-caliber cornerbacks fall this far. Mississippi State’s Cameron Dantzler, for example, ran a very pedestrian 4.64-second 40-yard dash at the combine, although he doesn’t look slow on the field. The 49ers also could take a tight end at this spot with Washington’s Hunter Bryant, Missouri’s Albert Okwuegbunam and Florida Atlantic’s Harrison Bryant possibilities.
Fifth round, pick No. 176: Daniel Thomas, SS, Auburn
This has been the 49ers’ money round in recent years because they don’t overthink the selection. The prospects may not have the ideal height (Trent Taylor, D.J. Reed), the ideal bulk (Kittle) or the ideal speed (Dre Greenlaw; he had a bad hamstring and ran his 40-yard dash in 4.73 seconds), but they all were productive in college.
Thomas fits those parameters. At 5-foot-10, he’s not the prototypical strong safety. But he had five career interceptions at Auburn, finished second on the team in tackles last season and was a team captain. His speed — he ran a 4.51-second 40 — is good for someone who weighs 215 pounds. Jaquiski Tartt is the starter at strong safety. However, he’s not signed beyond 2020 and there was a significant dropoff when he missed games in December.
Alternate plan: There are a number of intriguing strong safeties who could go anywhere from the fourth to sixth round including Maryland’s Antoine Brooks, Ohio State’s Jordan Fuller, Cal’s Jaylinn Hawkins and Middle Tennessee State’s Jovante Moffatt.
Sixth round, pick No. 210: Dalton Keene, TE, Virginia Tech
The 49ers are looking for someone who can spell Kittle for perhaps 10 or so snaps a game and to line up with Kittle in two tight end scenarios in which both are threats to catch a pass. Keene may not be quite that player, but he’d be a great addition late in the sixth round. He played a little bit of everything for the Hokies — H-back, fullback, tight end, slot tight end — and would be a good fill-in if Kyle Juszczyk got hurt. He’s already been doing a lot of the play-action, misdirection stuff that Shanahan uses.
Alternate plan: We don’t have the 49ers taking an offensive lineman yet. Maybe they get another Justin Skule-like player in this round, Auburn’s Jack Driscoll, who fits best in a zone-blocking scheme and might be able to play guard or tackle.
Seventh round, pick No. 217: Reggie Corbin, RB, Illinois
Obviously, the team would be looking for value at this stage of the draft and could pick any position (aside from punter). A running back like Corbin would be interesting, especially if the 49ers deal Matt Breida as some have suspected they might. Illinois was one of the schools that was able to conduct its pro day before the NFL shut them down. Corbin’s 6.85-second time in the 3-cone drill would have ranked first among all running backs at the combine and he also bench pressed 225 pounds 20 times — not bad for a 200 pounder.
Seventh round, pick No. 245: Cordel Iwuagwu, G, TCU
Iwuagwu played left guard for the Horned Frogs and was an honorable mention for the All-Big 12 team this past season. He’s a bit of a project but might be someone worth developing on the practice squad in 2020. He’s one of several players who have had video interviews with the 49ers, presumably with offensive line coach John Benton.
feelosofer
#ninergang
Very interesting though I would be surprised if Bryce Hall fell into the 3rd round even with the injury concerns. I like almost everything else though.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
That’s a “curious” release
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
I don't remember no blowout, I remember a one-inch game though
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
I don't remember no blowout, I remember a one-inch game though
But you remember that L
that ultimately ended your season
Mock draft is up brehsBut you remember that L
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