Rumor: Jeff Sneider (TheWrap) is 95% sure that Spider-man will not be Peter Parker or white

[MartyMcFly]

The origin story above is what not true? Marvel wiki says he got his powers from Oscorp and his uncle thieving.Where does PP fit in?

Oscorp created the spiders that bit Peter in the ultimate universe. Miles' uncle robbed Oscorp and one of those spiders got in his bag and bit his nephew when he got home. So miles had these powers and discovered them around the same time Peter was killed by the green goblin and of course at this point, the world now knows Peter Parker was spider man. Miles discovers that his powers are the same as Pete's but only decides to use them after doing research on Pete, going to his funeral, seeing the impact he had on people and their lives and decides to buy a spider man Halloween costume and play spider man, which prompts MJ, Gwen, Aunt May and shield to intervene.

Miles' whole reason for being spider man is because he looks up to Peter and wants to do as good of a job as he did and make him proud, not soil the memory, and also make Pete's family proud. He doesn't even take up the mantle without May's blessings and Gwen gives him the webshooters which is her way of giving her blessing.

That's what I mean when I say Miles needs Peter in order to exist because that's his motivation; that's the thing he's trying to achieve. Peter to him is what Ben is to Peter and to rob miles of that motivation and character building would be a shame and undercut the character.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I don't like the guy but Devin Ferraci on badass is saying that marvel has more control of this than they're letting on in the public in order for Sony to save face and from what he's hearing, it'll be Peter Parker because of the love and devotion they have to the character but he wouldn't be surprised if they made Peter black

 

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Oscorp created the spiders that bit Peter in the ultimate universe. Miles' uncle robbed Oscorp and one of those spiders got in his bag and bit his nephew when he got home. So miles had these powers and discovered them around the same time Peter was killed by the green goblin and of course at this point, the world now knows Peter Parker was spider man. Miles discovers that his powers are the same as Pete's but only decides to use them after doing research on Pete, going to his funeral, seeing the impact he had on people and their lives and decides to buy a spider man Halloween costume and play spider man, which prompts MJ, Gwen, Aunt May and shield to intervene.

Miles' whole reason for being spider man is because he looks up to Peter and wants to do as good of a job as he did and make him proud, not soil the memory, and also make Pete's family proud. He doesn't even take up the mantle without May's blessings and Gwen gives him the webshooters which is her way of giving her blessing.

That's what I mean when I say Miles needs Peter in order to exist because that's his motivation; that's the thing he's trying to achieve. Peter to him is what Ben is to Peter and to rob miles of that motivation and character building would be a shame and undercut the character.

so you're saying Miles is nothing without the white man

 

[MartyMcFly]

so you're saying Miles is nothing without the white man

 

[loyola llothta]

I don't like the guy but Devin Ferraci on badass is saying that marvel has more control of this than they're letting on in the public in order for Sony to save face and from what he's hearing, it'll be Peter Parker because of the love and devotion they have to the character but he wouldn't be surprised if they made Peter black

i knew that from the start marvel had more control over this, its too much to lose

 

[Reece]

By "ethnic" he means Taylor Lautner

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

marvel ultimate universe is hella confusing to me, i can barely keep up with dc new 52

now in this thread i find out ben reilly is peter parker and peter is ben, my head hurts

 

[Dwolf]

How about doing the characters that are already black/other races decent before changing it up.

 

[inthebushes]

Looking forward to the white tears.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

This is an unprecedented collabo of 2 studios with a 4 billion dollar budget?!?!? And yall think they gonna kick that off with the minority spider man???

I would love that for diversity's sake but sony revealed how they felt about Kevin hart and he is one of the biggest black stars in hollywood. Im sure sony probably got some kind of bail out clause that if this floos to their standards disney takes the hit

how much do you really think a minority spiderman would hurt the returns though? i dunno maybe I just have more faith in humanity than the rest of us. spiderman is a huge franchise, I really don't think there's much to worry about on that end.

don't get me wrong they risk losing a certain demo but think of all the demos they would gain too.

the purist in me kinda wants to see Peter again, but I completely understand why they might go for miles.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Oscorp created the spiders that bit Peter in the ultimate universe. Miles' uncle robbed Oscorp and one of those spiders got in his bag and bit his nephew when he got home. So miles had these powers and discovered them around the same time Peter was killed by the green goblin and of course at this point, the world now knows Peter Parker was spider man. Miles discovers that his powers are the same as Pete's but only decides to use them after doing research on Pete, going to his funeral, seeing the impact he had on people and their lives and decides to buy a spider man Halloween costume and play spider man, which prompts MJ, Gwen, Aunt May and shield to intervene.

Miles' whole reason for being spider man is because he looks up to Peter and wants to do as good of a job as he did and make him proud, not soil the memory, and also make Pete's family proud. He doesn't even take up the mantle without May's blessings and Gwen gives him the webshooters which is her way of giving her blessing.

That's what I mean when I say Miles needs Peter in order to exist because that's his motivation; that's the thing he's trying to achieve. Peter to him is what Ben is to Peter and to rob miles of that motivation and character building would be a shame and undercut the character.

The 'whole reason'? Wouldn't having super powers be more of a reason? It seems this whole apprehension is to pay reverence to what preceded him, Peter Parker. Since Spiderman has never been in the MCU and is getting rebooted I don't see it has necessary for the movies. It's a nice sentiment in regards to paying homage but I don't think it is necessary. They could make any heroes death a similar motivation for a new superhero. They don't have to have the exact same powers.

 

[MartyMcFly]

The 'whole reason'? Wouldn't having super powers be more of a reason? It seems this whole apprehension is to pay reverence to what preceded him, Peter Parker. Since Spiderman has never been in the MCU and is getting rebooted I don't see it has necessary for the movies. It's a nice sentiment in regards to paying homage but I don't think it is necessary. They could make any heroes death a similar motivation for a new superhero. They don't have to have the exact same powers.

No that's not his reasoning breh that's the point. His best friend is very very persistent on him using the powers but he's hesitant and doesn't decide to use them until he deals with Peter. You can't just say "hey let's toss in any superhero to inspire him" because it loses the point. That's tantamount to not killing off uncle ben, which was Peter's reasoning for becoming a hero to begin with because prior to that, he was going to use his powers to get rich. Miles was going to sit on his powers and not do anything with them until seeing the impact Pete had on everyone and the type of hero he was and realizing the city needs a spider-man, not just any hero but specifically a spider-man. You may not think its necessary but it robs the character breh and it really makes Pete's death mean something in that universe (although he's alive again) and it makes more sense to tie them together. Again, it's like saying Ben's death isn't important to Peter and completely irrelevant to the story or why he does what he does with his powers. If Ben hadn't died, Pete was going to just be a selfish, arrogant, angry teenager using his powers to get rich and if not for Pete's death, Miles was going to sit on his gifts and just remain shy and meek and an unassuming 12 year old.

The whole point of spider-man and any character within Marvel who takes up that mantle, is the fact that something calls them into action and it's normally something tragic that changes their way of viewing the world. Just having powers is never the motivation for them.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

No that's not his reasoning breh that's the point. His best friend is very very persistent on him using the powers but he's hesitant and doesn't decide to use them until he deals with Peter. You can't just say "hey let's toss in any superhero to inspire him" because it loses the point. That's tantamount to not killing off uncle ben, which was Peter's reasoning for becoming a hero to begin with because prior to that, he was going to use his powers to get rich. Miles was going to sit on his powers and not do anything with them until seeing the impact Pete had on everyone and the type of hero he was and realizing the city needs a spider-man, not just any hero but specifically a spider-man. You may not think its necessary but it robs the character breh and it really makes Pete's death mean something in that universe (although he's alive again) and it makes more sense to tie them together. Again, it's like saying Ben's death isn't important to Peter and completely irrelevant to the story or why he does what he does with his powers. If Ben hadn't died, Pete was going to just be a selfish, arrogant, angry teenager using his powers to get rich and if not for Pete's death, Miles was going to sit on his gifts and just remain shy and meek and an unassuming 12 year old.

I dunno the MCU has done away with Mandarin being apart of Tony Stark's origin, Hank Pym being an original Avenger, the creator of Ultron and ditched Janet Van Dyne all together. Making big changes to comic book canon is not something they shy away from.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I dunno the MCU has done away with Mandarin being apart of Tony Stark's origin, Hank Pym being an original Avenger, the creator of Ultron and ditched Janet Van Dyne all together. Making big changes to comic book canon is not something they shy away from.

But the key point for Tony becoming iron man was being in Vietnam and seeing the destruction his weapons had. All they did was switch that to update it with the same results. Ultron being created by tony also informs the character. It's not about shying away from canon which I'm cool with but more about making decisions that are still within character and inform characters. Taking away the Peter connection miles has completely alters the character and his goal. Pete's goal was to make his uncle proud. Miles' goal is to make Pete proud. The point is they're both chasing ghosts, ghosts who can never really say whether they're proud of them or not they just have to hope for the best and do their best. It's why both characters are always wrecked with guilt amongst other things.

Character goes beyond staying true to canon or not staying true to canon but it's always the most important thing to start your movie with. Marvel has changed things canon wise but they're true to the characters and that's what most fans appreciate. Whether it be their ultimate versions or their 616 versions