:rudy: at Biggie dissing Pac after he died on LKG

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Probably the best rant of all time.


fukk Mobb Deep,
fukk Biggie,
fukk Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother fukking crew.
And if you want to be down with Bad Boy,
Then fukk you too.
Chino XL, fukk you too.
All you mother fukkers,
fukk you too.

:pacspit:


Sad thing is Pac's rant >>>>>> Pac's rapping on that song
 

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rat ass king tut killed PAC in Vegas for the feds

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Think about this, through the summer he's making appearances speaking politically about how he believes the record sales represent what musicians have to offer in political power. He believed these people should be represented for.

His last interview he mentions linking up with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Louis Farrakhan (who had the Nation of Islam providing security for Tupac during film shoots) - he boldly proclaims his ambitions to be so far removed from the image he currently had at the time by getting involved in politics and representing for a misunderstood demographic.

He gets shot in the months leading up to an election..

Then they drop his album on an election day.. a white Cadillac slides off into the night through hundreds of miles of desert roads leading up to LA. The car was a rental.

Does that add up to you?
 

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I wish death on no man but Biggie got what was coming to him. You don't dance on a beloved nikka's grave, then go to his adopted home state for a victory lap. That's not intelligent, as brother Malcolm would say.

I wish Biggie had simply told Puff to fukk off, and didn't go on that promo tour. He coulda just called some Cali radio stations from NY; nikkas would say he was scared, but he'd probably still be alive today. Dude should have just taken that temporary L instead of a permanent one, nahmean.
 

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SMH at you Pac stans thinking Big should have remorse over a guy who said he fucccked his wife and would KILL HIS KIDS. "My 44 make sure all yo kids dont grow" Really Pac? Rap beef makes you wanna kill kids that had nothing to do with it? Yeah you all about lifting up black people. FOH

It's not a matter of having remorse. It's a matter of saying shyt while he was still alive to defend himself. Pac told him straight up, big played the bytch role.
 

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It comes down to Biggie and the people around him wanting to release the track and they did, end of story. You can talk about the moral fabric behind the decision all you want, I'd say it's best just to look at it from the artistry perspective - why would you want to sensor yourself? Would you rather of Biggie of died without EVER hearing his perspective on an issue that will personify his legacy for as long as he's known?
 

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I don't think Puffy can listen to the LAD album. There is no way he can listen to the intro to "I'm going back to Cali" and not have it haunt him.
 
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I don't think Puffy can listen to the LAD album. There is no way he can listen to the intro to "I'm going back to Cali" and not have it haunt him.

:takedat: dont give a fukk

that fukkin somalian is worth 500 million..fukked jlo in her prime..had black jews doin time for him...survived both pac, big and suge flabby ass.

nah that snake :takedat: is straight.
 

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I don't think Puffy can listen to the LAD album. There is no way he can listen to the intro to "I'm going back to Cali" and not have it haunt him.



"....can y'all hear me out there! It's all fukked up now! IT"S ALL fukkED UP NOW!!!! What I'mma do now! Huh!? What Umma Do Now!? ITS ALL fukkED UP NOW!!!!"

:to:

:ohhh:

:leostare:

:rudy:
 
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I saw that interview with Puffy after Biggie's death and nikka looked suspicious as fuk. Tried to do :to: face, wasn't blinking and gave generic answers thinking 5 seconds beforehand.

Inside he prolly thought ":skip: shyt's gonna sell gooood"

I remember the exact interview u r talking about. I always thought something was fishy about that interview. But i stll will always believe that both Pac and Big were set up to die by Suge. The Pac one could be debated for days but ain't it funny that Orlando Anderson (the guy who killed Pac) all of a sudden had amnesia when it came time to remember if Suge was in on the beating too. Talking about Suge was pulling nikkas of him. But if Suge did set up Pac he had to have balls of titanium to be seated next to him. That's the one reason y i cud believe he didn't do it. Maybe Anderson and his crew acted alone and Suge paid him off to try to avoid jail time.
 

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I remember the exact interview u r talking about. I always thought something was fishy about that interview. But i stll will always believe that both Pac and Big were set up to die by Suge. The Pac one could be debated for days but ain't it funny that Orlando Anderson (the guy who killed Pac) all of a sudden had amnesia when it came time to remember if Suge was in on the beating too. Talking about Suge was pulling nikkas of him. But if Suge did set up Pac he had to have balls of titanium to be seated next to him. That's the one reason y i cud believe he didn't do it. Maybe Anderson and his crew acted alone and Suge paid him off to try to avoid jail time.

Orlando's cousin admitted they did it. He was in the car with him.
 

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This is rap b, we praise the scum of society, monsters. Don't bring morals to the table when Tupac over compensating feminine b*tch ass cost many lives, from the innocent child in Oakland to Christopher Williams to all the wanna be thugs worldwide influence by his persona. LKG is a great song thats all that matters.
 

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Wiki entries on these songs

"Long Kiss Goodnight"

It was also speculated by many listeners that the song "Long Kiss Goodnight" contains subtle insults towards 2Pac and Death Row Records C.E.O. Suge Knight although at the time it was denied due to the sensitive nature of both rapper's recent deaths.

However, Lil' Cease, Biggie's cousin and a member of Junior M.A.F.I.A. claimed the following in XXL Magazine's April 2003 issue about Long Kiss Goodnight: "That was about ’Pac. He had some shyt at the beginning of that though, nobody heard it, on the reel. We had to change it. It was a little too much. I can’t remember what Big said about him, but it was terrible. It couldn’t make it. He didn’t want to do it. He had some fire. But he didn’t want to make it too much. He just wanted to address it and to let nikka know, “I know what’s going on, and I could get wreck if I want to.” Like, “If I really wanted to get on ya nikkas, I could.”

Sean Combs, however, denies these claims stating: "Naw, it was just some emcee lyrics. I know people wanna have their imagination, but it was just lyrics. You're hearing it from the horse's mouth. I would tell the truth."

In the first verse, the lyric "Laugh Now, Cry Later" is allegedly a reference to two tattoos on 2Pac’s back (one of which says “Laugh Now” and the other says “Cry Later”). A line in the first verse is supposedly aimed at Shakur:

When my men bust you just move with such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I Ain't Mad at Cha (We Ain't Mad at Cha)

The last 2 verses in particular seem to be directed towards Tupac:

I'm flaming gats, aimin at, these fukkin
maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the
game is that? Like they hustle backwards
I smoke Backwoods and Dutchies, ya can't touch me
Try to rush me, slugs go, touchy-touchy
You're bleeding lovely, with your, spirit above me
or beneath me, your whole life you live sneaky
Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me
Rest where the worms and the weak be

Slugs hit your chest tap your spine, flat line
Heard through the grapevine, you got fukked fo' times
Damn that three to nine, fukked you up for real doe
Sling steal slow, as for remorse, we feel no

The lines seem to be making reference to Tupac frequently mentioning Biggie by name in his raps (a practice that was not common at the time), and allegations spread by Wendy Williams that he had been raped during his prison term at Rikers Island. Although some fans have interpreted these lines as references to Shakur's murder, XXL Magazine has stated that the song was most likely recorded before 2Pac's death.


In "Going Back to Cali" the second verse opens up with Biggie's thoughts on the inter-coastal war and his relationship with the West Coast:

If I got to choose a coast I got to choose the East
I live out there, so don't go there
But that don't mean a nikka can't rest in the West
See some nice breasts in the West
Smoke some nice sess in the West, y'all nikkaz is a mess
Thinkin I'm gon stop, givin L.A. props
All I got is beef with those that violate me
I shall annihilate thee
Case Closed.

In the song "Notorious Thugs" B.I.G. refers to long time nemesis 2Pac in the line "so called beef with you-know-who.", calling the feud between him and Shakur 'bullshyt', While Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (who featured 2Pac on one of their songs the same year) throw jabs towards Three 6 Mafia, Twista, Crucial Conflict and Do or Die.

"My Downfall", "What's Beef" (both of which are about the subject of feuding), and "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" are also said to contain lyrics aimed towards 2Pac (and other rivals), according to speculative listeners. Biggie, however, stated in a Spin Magazine interview that "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" was not about Shakur.

To this day, Bad Boy denies that Biggie ever dissed 2Pac on record in fear of heightening East Coast-West Coast tensions.

Yet, on the track Brooklyn's Finest off of Jay-Z's 1996 album Reasonable Doubt, B.I.G. raps:

The two for five dollar hits, the blue tops
Gotta go, Coolio mean it's gettin "Too Hot"
If Faith had twins, she'd probably have two-Pac's
Get it? .. Tu-pac's

The song "Can I Get Witcha", which was featured on Biggie's first posthumous album Born Again, also mentions 2Pac by name, although it was recorded before the feud (the track was originally included on his demo tape).

R.I.P. Big, the greatest rapper of all time.

BTW: Some of these songs were recorder while Pac was still alive and talking shyt. I bet Big went in the studio the day he heard "Hit 'em up" and laid some shyt down.

On "Long Kiss Goodbye", BIG is going at Pac while Puffy is going at Suge. We all know who he's talking about without having to even mention his name. That's what you call a good diss record.

ha..so he was on that :heh: shyt..
 
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