:rudy: at Biggie dissing Pac after he died on LKG

[West Coast Avenger]

his G is underrated

there is nothing G about him.....he is just a shady record exec and that is all he is.....

 

[Scotch Hall]

Most likely Suge killed Pac and Puffy saw how profitable it was.

suge ain't kill pac

 

[Tommy Tuffnuts]

That freestyle might have been the death of him

 

[Prez2032]

That freestyle might have been the death of him

 

[Scotch Hall]

n1ggas just reciting a verse off a song that ain't came out yet

 

[kariba]

Pacs rant on the end of hit em up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Probably the best rant of all time.


fukk Mobb Deep,
fukk Biggie,
fukk Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother fukking crew.
And if you want to be down with Bad Boy,
Then fukk you too.
Chino XL, fukk you too.
All you mother fukkers,
fukk you too.

 

[LOUDaffair]

pac had heart Biggie was a fukk boy.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Wiki entries on these songs

"Long Kiss Goodnight"

It was also speculated by many listeners that the song "Long Kiss Goodnight" contains subtle insults towards 2Pac and Death Row Records C.E.O. Suge Knight although at the time it was denied due to the sensitive nature of both rapper's recent deaths.

However, Lil' Cease, Biggie's cousin and a member of Junior M.A.F.I.A. claimed the following in XXL Magazine's April 2003 issue about Long Kiss Goodnight: "That was about ’Pac. He had some shyt at the beginning of that though, nobody heard it, on the reel. We had to change it. It was a little too much. I can’t remember what Big said about him, but it was terrible. It couldn’t make it. He didn’t want to do it. He had some fire. But he didn’t want to make it too much. He just wanted to address it and to let nikka know, “I know what’s going on, and I could get wreck if I want to.” Like, “If I really wanted to get on ya nikkas, I could.”

Sean Combs, however, denies these claims stating: "Naw, it was just some emcee lyrics. I know people wanna have their imagination, but it was just lyrics. You're hearing it from the horse's mouth. I would tell the truth."

In the first verse, the lyric "Laugh Now, Cry Later" is allegedly a reference to two tattoos on 2Pac’s back (one of which says “Laugh Now” and the other says “Cry Later”). A line in the first verse is supposedly aimed at Shakur:

When my men bust you just move with such stamina
Slugs missed ya, I Ain't Mad at Cha (We Ain't Mad at Cha)

The last 2 verses in particular seem to be directed towards Tupac:

I'm flaming gats, aimin at, these fukkin
maniacs, put my name in raps, what part the
game is that? Like they hustle backwards
I smoke Backwoods and Dutchies, ya can't touch me
Try to rush me, slugs go, touchy-touchy
You're bleeding lovely, with your, spirit above me
or beneath me, your whole life you live sneaky
Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me
Rest where the worms and the weak be

Slugs hit your chest tap your spine, flat line
Heard through the grapevine, you got fukked fo' times
Damn that three to nine, fukked you up for real doe
Sling steal slow, as for remorse, we feel no

The lines seem to be making reference to Tupac frequently mentioning Biggie by name in his raps (a practice that was not common at the time), and allegations spread by Wendy Williams that he had been raped during his prison term at Rikers Island. Although some fans have interpreted these lines as references to Shakur's murder, XXL Magazine has stated that the song was most likely recorded before 2Pac's death.


In "Going Back to Cali" the second verse opens up with Biggie's thoughts on the inter-coastal war and his relationship with the West Coast:

If I got to choose a coast I got to choose the East
I live out there, so don't go there
But that don't mean a nikka can't rest in the West
See some nice breasts in the West
Smoke some nice sess in the West, y'all nikkaz is a mess
Thinkin I'm gon stop, givin L.A. props
All I got is beef with those that violate me
I shall annihilate thee
Case Closed.

In the song "Notorious Thugs" B.I.G. refers to long time nemesis 2Pac in the line "so called beef with you-know-who.", calling the feud between him and Shakur 'bullshyt', While Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (who featured 2Pac on one of their songs the same year) throw jabs towards Three 6 Mafia, Twista, Crucial Conflict and Do or Die.

"My Downfall", "What's Beef" (both of which are about the subject of feuding), and "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" are also said to contain lyrics aimed towards 2Pac (and other rivals), according to speculative listeners. Biggie, however, stated in a Spin Magazine interview that "You're Nobody (Till Somebody Kills You)" was not about Shakur.

To this day, Bad Boy denies that Biggie ever dissed 2Pac on record in fear of heightening East Coast-West Coast tensions.

Yet, on the track Brooklyn's Finest off of Jay-Z's 1996 album Reasonable Doubt, B.I.G. raps:

The two for five dollar hits, the blue tops
Gotta go, Coolio mean it's gettin "Too Hot"
If Faith had twins, she'd probably have two-Pac's
Get it? .. Tu-pac's

The song "Can I Get Witcha", which was featured on Biggie's first posthumous album Born Again, also mentions 2Pac by name, although it was recorded before the feud (the track was originally included on his demo tape).

R.I.P. Big, the greatest rapper of all time.

BTW: Some of these songs were recorder while Pac was still alive and talking shyt. I bet Big went in the studio the day he heard "Hit 'em up" and laid some shyt down.

On "Long Kiss Goodbye", BIG is going at Pac while Puffy is going at Suge. We all know who he's talking about without having to even mention his name. That's what you call a good diss record.

Good post, you steal it? Puffy spit the hardest adlibs EVER on this track

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

#SCUST @ Threadstarter thinking albums, especially in the late 90's could be recorded, samples cleared, pressed, promoted, shipped & released within 2 days or something.






dikkheaded lil kids, man....




The songs were recorded, and it was too late after the entire process....

you gotta let these nikkaz run with they lil stories bro

 

[Consigliere]

BIG was dead when this record got released.

Let it go.

Especially if you were in diapers back then.

 

[Trey0'5Blue2Gz]

Puffy didn't care bout biggie. That's why on the Going Back to Cali intro he says "it's time." and BIG says "you sure?" BIG knew he wasn't innocent he was involved in all the dumb shyt that had transpired before Pac died. He was going for the "victory lap" going to Cali talking realllll sideways on the radio while out there. Gets death threats and what does Puff think is best to do? Stay and promote Life After Death...

 

[Mac Casper]

People don't realize that Tupac's outro to "Hit 'Em Up" was on some NewOrleans21 issh to second power..

"my fo-fo..make sho' ..all yo'...kids dOn't..Grow!"

See what I'm saying?

 

[Mac Casper]

#SCUST @ Threadstarter thinking albums, especially in the late 90's could be recorded, samples cleared, pressed, promoted, shipped & released within 2 days or something.






dikkheaded lil kids, man....




The songs were recorded, and it was too late after the entire process....

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory recorded in August...released in the first week of November, on an election day and sold over 600,000 copies first week. The last track recorded for it was on September 5th when Tupac did the last verse of "Toss It Up", a song from earlier that summer that wasn't a part of the Makaveli sessions.

You mean to tell me between September and March wasn't enough time, are you just assuming you're familiar with the process?

 

[HendriX]

BIG was dead when this record got released.

Let it go.

Especially if you were in diapers back then.

biggie was performing that track just weeks before he died..he fukkin knew what he was doing during that "freestyle"

shiit got him murked

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rYC0Ohqih4"]Last Biggie Freestyle - YouTube[/ame]

 

[avon barksdale]

rat ass king tut killed PAC in Vegas for the feds