Roubles Jones Jr. requests Russian citizenship over a cup of tea with Vladimir Putin.

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Is roy hurting for money?


I remember fat fan saying he had financial problems, I could be wrong.

He owes the IRS a large sum of change, and he lost a lot of cash not knowing the music business when he created the Body Head Entertainment. Basically he makes money from HBO Commentary, His gym, His two promotional companies but at the end of the day he will only make his most money when he is fighting, especially overseas when it becomes a big a event for the whole country.
 

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:patrice:I know minimal about boxing, but you'd think by now Russia would have a firm grip on it's prospects or trying to set up a monopoly based system like PBC in hindsight.

:feedme: Educate me brehs
 

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Wow. Roy Jones is a true gentleman.

"People listen to what other people have to say and fail to seek the truth." - Roy Jones

This is exactly what happened to me some 8 years ago. I entered into one of those typical superficial political discussions where everybody pretends to know what they are talking about, reciting the latest sentiments du jour, largely stereotypical, ill-informed with ad hoc reasoning simply participating in the ritual to seem knowledgeable.

It just so happened that around this time Putin was named man of the year so there was a lot of talk about Russia it's politics etc. This provided me with an easy opportunity to at least be a little bit more informed.

I sought out to hear from the president himself. Many of his speeches were available online in several formats; dubbed in youtube, or fully translated transcripts.

It was then and only then that I was really able to see how deceptively pernicious many news outlets were. Imagine that you say the sky is blue only to read in the newspapers the next day that you said the sky is green. The example is trivial, however when talking about international politics and the threat of war it's truly frightening. I can only conclude that such reporting is totally evil.

A more fitting example that we can recount would be that of Nazi Germany. I'm sure that most of you know that most Germans were not Nazis. In one of Guido Knopp's documentaries about Germany and the war, there was a moment where he asks how could the people have allowed this. Most of the individuals responded with the same answer, 'how could we know?!'

That is to say, they were inundated with reports about Germany being attacked, the existence of the German people is threatened by this nation and that nation and so forth and so on. So most people, believing it, despite the fact that it was a total lie, did their civic duty and sought to kill the invaders or send their sons to kill and be killed all because of a lie.

These days we have the blessing to be able to, from the comfort of our own homes, find perspectives that run the full spectrum in order to verify whether what we are being told is true or not. And, if we don't know, it's perfectly acceptable and even correct to admit ignorance.

With that quote right there, Roy Jones has echoed one of the keys to living a meaningful life.
 
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I hope Roy didn't take any of his belts over there. Putin walked off smooth with a Patriots Super Bowl ring before.
He finessed the shyt out of Kraft and there was no way he could get it back either. til this day Putin still has it. :laff:

"let me see that right quick"

* 5 min later*

putin: welp thanks for visiting moscow take care of yourself

kraft: but uh, my ring, think I could....

putin: what ring?

:laff:

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:patrice:I know minimal about boxing, but you'd think by now Russia would have a firm grip on it's prospects or trying to set up a monopoly based system like PBC in hindsight.

:feedme: Educate me brehs
I'm curious, why did you use the term, 'have a firm grip'?
 

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He finessed the shyt out of Kraft and there was no way he could get it back either. til this day Putin still has it. :laff:

"let me see that right quick"

* 5 min later*

putin: welp thanks for visiting moscow take care of yourself

kraft: but uh, my ring, think I could....

putin: what ring?

:laff:
I'm super curious. Were you aware that at the very moment that he gave it to him it was widely reported in the newspaper that Kraft said he gave it to him as a gift? And then after almost 5 or 6 years, Kraft says that he was forced to give it to him. Why, if Kraft is changing his story, should he be believed?
 

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I'm super curious. Were you aware that at the very moment that he gave it to him it was widely reported in the newspaper that Kraft said he gave it to him as a gift? And then after almost 5 or 6 years, Kraft says that he was forced to give it to him. Why, if Kraft is changing his story, should he be believed?
actually it was the other way around, Kraft first said it got snatched, then later changed his story for some 'bizarre' reason.

McCain even interjected himself into the conflict talking about "First Ill bring back Crimea, then that super bowl ring" if it wasn't snatched, why is McCain talking?
 

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actually it was the other way around, Kraft first said it got snatched, then later changed his story for some 'bizarre' reason.

McCain even interjected himself into the conflict talking about "First Ill bring back Crimea, then that super bowl ring" if it wasn't snatched, why is McCain talking?

In 2005 Kraft never said it got snatched. In fact this is what he said...

"I showed the president my most recent Super Bowl ring," Kraft
said in a statement released Wednesday. The Russian president "was
clearly taken with its uniqueness," Kraft said.

"At that point, I decided to give him the ring as a symbol of
the respect and admiration that I have for the Russian people and
the leadership of President Putin," Kraft said.


McCain never misses an opportunity to say something about Putin.
 

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In 2005 Kraft never said it got snatched. In fact this is what he said...

"I showed the president my most recent Super Bowl ring," Kraft
said in a statement released Wednesday. The Russian president "was
clearly taken with its uniqueness," Kraft said.

"At that point, I decided to give him the ring as a symbol of
the respect and admiration that I have for the Russian people and
the leadership of President Putin," Kraft said.


McCain never misses an opportunity to say something about Putin.
Patriots win means Kraft can replace Super Bowl ring Putin ‘stole’

2015 washington post update on the matter.

Loop fans may recall that Kraft was visiting Russia in 2005, and showed Putin his ring, who then pocketed it. But both men have very different versions of how that happened. Kraft said Putin took it (like Crimea) and Putin said it was a gift.

Kraft, telling the story in 2013, said Putin tried on the ring and said, “I can kill someone with this ring,” then kept it when several KGB officers led him away. Kraft claims he asked the then-Bush administration what to do – he wanted his prized jewelry back – but Bush officials urged him to let it go, you know, for diplomatic reasons.
 

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This only serves the point I originally made that Kraft changed his story. The excerpt I posted was from an article in 2005, what you've posted is from an update in 2015, of a retelling in 2013.
yes...that Putin stole it. which I'm pretty sure he did.
 
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