Rory ask Mal and Mecca what are the bad beats Nas picks and they couldn’t name one

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Every rapper has bad beats on an album...

and GodSon has some fire beats... Book of Rhymes, Get Down, Revolutionary Warfare, Made You Look

I wasn’t talking about the album I was talking about that specific beat

 

[28 Gramz]

Yep. People talk about Nas but don’t want to bring up the obvious early 2000’s Harlem Shake ass beats that nobody likes anymore:

Fab should be in this disscussion too. His albums define the generic early 00s sound perfectly.

 

[Gains]

the I am and Nastradamus era had some throw away beats

 

[JustCKing]

No im actually recalling right.

This beat was trash, what’s funny is I thought Kanye produced it since he was the featured artist. Never knew it was Timbo but now it makes sense.

The off beat Indian sample makes it even worse. And this shyt aged terribly.

I never heard this shyt get any play anywhere. Excuse Me Miss was the joint that was everywhere. I see why Timbaland disappeared in 2004, his cheesy beats wasn’t good enough. Atleast Swizz and Pharrell knew how to adapt to the changing sound.

Of course, "Excuse Me Miss" got more play than "The Bounce". "Excuse Me Miss" was a single accompanied by a video. "The Bounce" was never a single.

And LOL at Pharrell and Swizz adapting to a changing sound. Compare "Change Clothes" produced by The Neptunes/Pharrell to "Dirt Off Your Shoulders". "Dirt Off Your Shoulders" is the bigger song with a much bigger legacy. Song was bigger than anything Swizz produced during that time period especially if we want to talk 2004 since that dropped late 2003 and was still huge in 2004. Swizz even sampled the song in 2005 for Cassidy's "Hustla".

If you thought the beat was trash, how did it age terribly?

And people actually dapped that nonsense.

 

[JustCKing]

He got shytted on for You Owe Me and that's a MUCH better Timbo beat than The Bounce

By people who hate anything from him that doesn't sound like it belongs on Illmatic.

 

[28 Gramz]

name a rapper that has perfect beats on every album.

Ross and Jeezy don't have bad beats. Mediocre or generic maybe but not terrible like Nas.

 

[Cladyclad]

Lol still going

Big Things beat is beyond awful

 

[Stick Up Kid]

Ross and Jeezy don't have bad beats. Mediocre or generic maybe but not terrible like Nas.

Nas is a consensus Top 5 rapper of all time.

Ross and Jeezy are 60-70 range.

I guess beats dont matter then

 

[JulesMusic719]

babble . They don't have anything else better to talk about? So they grave dig a coli thread from 6 years ago ..

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

Busta Rhymes should be on the conversation

Ross and Jeezy don't have bad beats. Mediocre or generic maybe but not terrible like Nas.

they don't have bad beats but they choose the same type of production all the time, they take no risks. There's a reason nas got multiple classics and they don't. They are like great role players, you can count on them to do what they do, but they will never be mj or magic

 

[28 Gramz]

Busta Rhymes should be on the conversation


they don't have bad beats but they choose the same type of production all the time, they take no risks. There's a reason nas got multiple classics and they don't. They are like great role players, you can count on them to do what they do, but they will never be mj or magic

You're sleeping on Ross catalog, he definitely has a wide variety of production.

And Jeezy definitely has multiple classics.

 

[Jigganaut]

This is horrible.

Aye no bullshyt this was my jam in 11th grade when it came out. Lol it's some bullshyt though.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Fab should be in this disscussion too. His albums define the generic early 00s sound perfectly.

First album garbage. He used the best songs as singles. Very smart

 

[Shadow King]

Timbaland made rap beats that sounded like parody club bangers when you think about it… even the ones that sound good


This was a hard beat but ain’t nobody dancing to this.

But his R&B tracks sound like they were made for the club …I don’t get it.

The SWV track isn't really a club record, that's more "hard enough for a dude to ride down the ave and not be called soft" R&B.

I'm saying lol, that Fab beat is terrible



He got shytted on for You Owe Me and that's a MUCH better Timbo beat than The Bounce



Yeah he didn't pull off the double time flow on Big Things. He did it correctly a few years later on Heaven. He sounded good on You Owe Me tho IMO

Heaven was in a waltz count...it seems a bit easier to rap fast in a waltz

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Id say more of nas proboem is he kinda remade the same album over and over with slight variations per the times. But once i am came on, he had that “little of everythinf. Something for everybody” instead of going all in with a style. He did do it sometimes for ex i thought godson was a full album style. But gods son becake a template for SD from there. That made for albums that kinda have a similar listening experience. Same atyle of music on each.

It is the nas sound tho.

Gods son he changed it up some but he went into acoustic and slow stuff rhat wasnt really what people wanted at the time imo anyway.

Illmatic iww gods son lost tapes prolly his most unique work on a varied level while also having a style all to their own. Id throw untitled as well tho it def plays with the established formula.

i slept on the double its better than i realized last listen but it retreads the most ground. Theyre all good but you know what your gonna get ahead of time.

While i love half of i am thats where he started the formulaic album making needing something for everybody thing inatead of just going all out on himself and doing what works. Needing to stay relevant with times and doing odd records.



“Need the big old school rnb sample popish record”

“Rule” “new world”


“Need the street record

Thiefs theme nas is like made you look


Oh thats out of style? Change it up to whats new then.

Like the sound of his albums is always the same. They setup the same with very little variation. You gonna get some old school breaks, key heavy joints, a banger or two, an experimental banger, some pop shyt, slow rnb joint. All of it will be in same register.


But, nas albums… sound like nas albums. Cant say that for everyone. He has a standard and a style that he works with. The beats arent bad. They just accent the lyrics.


Tbh, im happier nas did what he did because he evolved into his sound from established sounds that predated him. Its way more unique than every rapper using whos hot atm. His shyt is not dated as badly because of this but after so many albums it might get old. Tbh i havent listened to a new nas album since LT so im not speaking about the HB albums.

But I know what ima get when i buy a nas album. Wheras , wu tang you didnt know. It goes both ways.