ronnie's official rhyme scheme/multisyllable/technical/lyrical/comparison/appreciation thread

[JuvenileHell]

vibe magazine cover..powerful.

 

[Nomad1]

how was it a bad move for pac ?

He fueled Pac's hatred for Diddy and BIG, he fukked him over with his money (he wasn't the only DR artist to experience that), and signing with the label also signed his early destiny with death....But artistically it did bring us a long of classics from Pac but as a person it just fukked Pac over..

 

[Michael's Black Son]

it was a great idea for literally 12 months.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

How many ways was this not a fukk up for Pac? He was forced to drop his conscious edge, he was corporatized, he got killed, need i go on?

(1) 2Pac DIDN'T drop his "conscious edge"...AEOM had Life Goes On, Wonder Why They Call You B+tch, Only God Can Judge, Shorty Wanna Be a Thug...Even on "How Do You Want It" a 'club' song, he was going at Bill Clinton, Bob Dole and Delores Tucker...

Makaveli had White Man's World, Hold Ya Head, Blasphemy, Krazy...

And then you have "Who do you believe me" "Lost Souls" "Letter to the president" "tear drops and closed casket"...My friend, what the FCUK do you mean...?

(2) 2Pac was NEVER corporate...Suge Knight let 2pac go in the studio and make WHATEVER songs 2pac wanted to make...Suge Knight allowed 2pac to express himself freely...Suge Knight BELIEVED in 2Pac...

How many rappers today get their albums pushed backed because the people at the top want a "club song" "a single" and all other BS...When is the last time a rapper released the album on the day he said it was going to be released...

Suge didn't play none of that BS with 2Pac

(3) We are all going to die...I would prefer to die at 25 and be ICON...Then die when I am 85 getting my diaper changed, and Alzheimers erases every single precious memory I have...

(4) 2Pac was going to ROT in jail if Suge hadn't put up that bail money...2Pac was NOT in the clear...He was bailed out, so his legal troubles were NOT over...
If guilty, 2Pac was going to do at least 5 years...

That's a waste of time...

God Bless Suge Knight for believing in 2Pac and taking a chance with him...2Pac knew that, and that's why he was loyal to DeathRow till his death...

He died repping Death Row...That's a better death than the old people I see in the nursing homes where work...

 

[kp404]

(1) 2Pac DIDN'T drop his "conscious edge"...AEOM had Life Goes On, Wonder Why They Call You B+tch, Only God Can Judge, Shorty Wanna Be a Thug...Even on "How Do You Want It" a 'club' song, he was going at Bill Clinton, Bob Dole and Delores Tucker... (Come on man, you are reaching..just because you mention a name doesn't mean you are calling for change like he did on 2Pacalypse Now and Me Against the World)

Makaveli had White Man's World, Hold Ya Head, Blasphemy, Krazy...

And then you have "Who do you believe me" "Lost Souls" "Letter to the president" "tear drops and closed casket"...My friend, what the FCUK do you mean...?

(2) 2Pac was NEVER corporate...Suge Knight let 2pac go in the studio and make WHATEVER songs 2pac wanted to make...Suge Knight allowed 2pac to express himself freely...Suge Knight BELIEVED in 2Pac... (This is a fukking lie..Pac was corporate and did what Death Row told him...why do you think AEOM sounded so lyrically different from MATW? Have you listened to both albums in depth and see the lyrical and content falloff????

How many rappers today get their albums pushed backed because the people at the top want a "club song" "a single" and all other BS...When is the last time a rapper released the album on the day he said it was going to be released...

Suge didn't play none of that BS with 2Pac-You really think Pac was running Deathrow huh? Ridiculous...

(3) We are all going to die...I would prefer to die at 25 and be ICON...Then die when I am 85 getting my diaper changed, and Alzheimers erases every single precious memory I have... THIS IS THE DUMBEST shyt I EVER HEARD...YOU THINK DYING AT 25 FROM A RAP BEEF MEANS HE DIED AN ICON???? FOR WHAT??? WHAT DOES HE REPRESENT OUTSIDE OF MUSIC TODAY?? Nothing. You are in your own Pac fantasy.

 

[kp404]

He fueled Pac's hatred for Diddy and BIG, he fukked him over with his money (he wasn't the only DR artist to experience that), and signing with the label also signed his early destiny with death....But artistically it did bring us a long of classics from Pac but as a person it just fukked Pac over..

Thank you! These Pac stans are just so in blind love with Pac that they can't give an honest critique...I'll give him this, his death created a cult of stans

 

[infamousred]

it brought us all eyez on me, makaveli, and all the unreleased classic material he had...but because 2pac was out on the frontlines that night in vegas it also brought about his death.
the original versions of better dayz, until the end of time, and still i rise are essential 2pac material:
http://thedeathrowrecords.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/gho5t-presents-2pac-original-albumz.html

 

[jilla82]

thinking back....
...it is kinda crazy to think that Suge was the only person willing to bail Pac out

 

[nineteeneightysix]

He fueled Pac's hatred for Diddy and BIG, he fukked him over with his money (he wasn't the only DR artist to experience that), and signing with the label also signed his early destiny with death....But artistically it did bring us a long of classics from Pac but as a person it just fukked Pac over..

So, 2Pac stays in jail for 5 years, and what do we get...? Nothing...

You guys are basically saying, if Jimmy Jones didn't bail Max B out, then Max B wouldn't be doing 75 years for a homicide...Think about that...hahahahaha

I am delusional about Suge Knight...
But him bailing 2Pac out was a godsend move...There is NOTHING to gain sitting in jail...

 

[the cac mamba]

to me it definitely was not a bad move

he dropped a double cd that was a classic went multi platinum became a multi millionaire.
recorded a bunch of songs while on the row destroyed bad boy etc.

all of which are <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<getting killed at 25

 

[nineteeneightysix]

all of which are <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<getting killed at 25

What difference does it make when you die...?

When you die you die...

At 25, dude accomplished MORE than most people will in 80 years...

 

[the cac mamba]

What difference does it make when you die...?

..

 

[the rhyme king]

thinking back....
...it is kinda crazy to think that Suge was the only person willing to bail Pac out

dudes can say what they want about suge knight but he got pac out of that hell hole.

so as far as im concern suge is a good dude imo.

 

[JayBaldacci]

to me it definitely was not a bad move

he dropped a double cd that was a classic went multi platinum became a multi millionaire.
recorded a bunch of songs while on the row destroyed bad boy etc.

Tupac was not a multi millionaire. Suge had that nikka locked with the contract.

 

[Nomad1]

So, 2Pac stays in jail for 5 years, and what do we get...? Nothing...

You guys are basically saying, if Jimmy Jones didn't bail Max B out, then Max B wouldn't be doing 75 years for a homicide...Think about that...hahahahaha

I am delusional about Suge Knight...
But him bailing 2Pac out was a godsend move...There is NOTHING to gain sitting in jail...

As a huge Pac fan it would have been better if he was in jail because he most likely would not have died.