ronnie's official rhyme scheme/multisyllable/technical/lyrical/comparison/appreciation thread

[Prince Cairo]

Always liked this one. One of those rare moments where he sounds "hungry" or something close to it. "fukk rich let's get wealthy.. who else gon' feed me? If I need it, I'm gonna get it, how ever God helps me."



This song is just the purest example of the Jay-Z aesthetic though.

 

[the cac mamba]

suck a dikk

 

[LionofJudah]

I got you.

 

[the rhyme king]

in a other thread somebody said biggie changed the game in terms of rhyming and said before he came out everybody was rapping like they were still in the 80's i want somebody to proved that.

 

[Turbulent]

in a other thread somebody said biggie changed the game in terms of rhyming and said before he came out everybody was rapping like they were still in the 80's

i wouldn't say he was solely responsible for it but people were rhyming a little faster at that time and more "old school" type flow. he kinda slowed things down a little and also the way he stressed certain syllables. I'd say Cube was also an influence in that sense.

 

[the rhyme king]

i wouldn't say he was solely responsible for it but people were rhyming a little faster at that time and more "old school" type flow. he kinda slowed things down a little and also the way he stressed certain syllables. I'd say Cube was also an influence in that sense.

rakim used meter also in his lines and they used meter in his bar measures and put emphasis on certain syllables was ridiculous.

 

[WEKetchum]

I think Biggie's influence was more about general execution than it was just as rhyming. The way that he was talking about gritty, violent, drug dealing street topics over such poppy beats and familiar samples was unprecedented for the most part - at least in terms of how it was done. Mo Money Mo Problems had a familiar Diana Ross sample while Biggie's talking about the feds tapping his phone. Dr. Dre and Snoop were doing it too, but Biggie did it and was able to pair it with the really hard-sounding stuff too.

That leads into the other thing. Life After Death is a blueprint that rappers still follow today, in terms of how it blatantly reaches out to serve different demographics with different songs - romantic songs for women, hard songs for street dudes, street songs, party songs, songs for the West Coast, songs for the Midwest, etc. - and actually do it so well.

As far as his actual influence rhyming, tough for me to pinpoint it at the moment

 

[USSInsiders]

Biggie's hesitation tranny dikksucker flow definitely changed the game

 

[JuvenileHell]

That leads into the other thing. Life After Death is a blueprint that rappers still follow today, in terms of how it blatantly reaches out to serve different demographics with different songs - romantic songs for women, hard songs for street dudes, street songs, party songs, songs for the West Coast, songs for the Midwest, etc. - and actually do it so well.

Damn breh, you make it sound like Pac never existed....

 

[Liquid]

His storytelling is really what got him to that level, he was one of the best at telling stories and giving you a great picture. Juicy, Mo Money, Mo Problems, and Victory are probably the best examples of that.

As far as Rhyming goes? Lyrically I don't think he was anything special, BUT he was able to hang with others and was able to change his style several times. Notorious Thugs and Sky's The Limit are probably the best examples of that.

He also participated in classic mainstream tracks, Get Money is probably the best example in that space.

Versatile and witty, it's basically the blueprint Jay-Z used. Jay-Z is better than B.I.G. lyrically tho

 

[WEKetchum]

Damn breh, you make it sound like Pac never existed....

Not at all. Just saying that I think that Biggie's influence was bigger on rappers' actual approach in the creative/commercial aspect. Life After Death literally had a song for everybody; the way that rappers try to have a different song for different areas of the country, that's something that Life After Death serves as a blueprint for. Pac was more important than Biggie culturally without a doubt, so I'm not acting like he never existed. But while Pac was bigger culturally in terms of his blueprint, Biggie was bigger musically with his impact.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

By dying

 

[STFU]

His storytelling is really what got him to that level, he was one of the best at telling stories and giving you a great picture. Juicy, Mo Money, Mo Problems, and Victory are probably the best examples of that.

Those two are not storytelling tracks.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Biggie was a popular rapper, but he really didn't change the game...His impact on the game is greatly exaggerated...

I look at the game today, and I really don't see Biggie...

 

[kingofnyc]

let this shyt go... if u wasnt a fan just keep it moving