Roland Martin Goes One-On-One With Dr. Umar Johnson

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Yup. You diss Umar the con man you're a c00n.

You diss Obama the actually accomplished black man you're a hero.

The cognitive dissonance with these dudes is real heavy:wow:

wrong how many times do we have to say this...No ONE agrees with UMAR on everything....we criticize him on things we dont believe in....
However when he is right he is right

to y'all he is always wrong ...there is a BIG difference there
 

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wrong how many times do we have to say this...No ONE agrees with UMAR on everything....we criticize him on things we dont believe in....
However when he is right he is right

to y'all he is always wrong ...there is a BIG difference there
He was wrong with every factual piece of info he tried to present here.:francis:
 

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He was wrong with every factual piece of info he tried to present here.:francis:
Entertain my line of questioning for a bit.

Most interracial people (of black and white parents) usually identify as black, correct? Society generally accepts this as well, right?
 

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Entertain my line of questioning for a bit.

Most interracial people (of black and white parents) usually identify as black, correct? Society generally accepts this as well, right?
Yes, to an extent. But I think it has more to do with appearance. If they look black they identify as black. If not, they don't.
 

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wrong how many times do we have to say this...No ONE agrees with UMAR on everything....we criticize him on things we dont believe in....
However when he is right he is right

to y'all he is always wrong ...there is a BIG difference there
Give them a crooked Democrat politician, they are more than willing to vote. No questions asked.
 

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Yes, to an extent. But I think it has more to do with appearance. If they look black they identify as black. If not, they don't.
Exactly.

So the same thing applies to the offspring of such a person if said offspring chooses to reproduce with a white person as well, correct? To most likely a lesser extent, right?
 

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The entire, I'm not American narrative is pointless.

Black people have been in this country from. Jump.

Helped build this country.

Fought numerous wars to maintain this country.

Live in this country.

Work in this country.


This country should be giving black people what they are owed as Americans.


If you don't feel that way you're either a.) waiting for America to crumble and that's somehow going to help you or b.) someone who should just move.


That's never going to happen due to the simple fact that whites are afraid of blacks getting too much power.

So reparations for other groups is fine, but for blacks? Whites have too big a hard on for blacks to allow that to happen.

Why are you so upset with this man and his opinions?
 

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Like I said in my post above. You are trying to engage in character assassination.

That's one of the reasons you are a liberal c00n. Second reason is you are indirectly backing Roland. Third, it's debatable what you value first.

But you've already thrown you're safety net out in this thread. So it's almost useless to talk to you.

And I'm still waiting for that timestamp. Don't think I forgot.
He's a con man.

Just because you like his message don't detract from his flaws.

This video was 75% about him as a person and responding to the claims against him, 15 percent of him giving his views and 10 percent just talking over people.

He's developing a movement off of blatantly false statistics, his educational background (taught by cacs) and playing to emotion.

The criticism he receives is adequate.

He's taken over 3/4 of a million dollars from black people with no plan and hiding where the money is going despite it being for a 501c3.

Half if y'all nikkas are in here trying to shyt on real black men, with a trade, from a black family, who have been a part of the civil rights movement, who run programs for black men, women and children because they don't support a conman because he placated your insecurities.

fukk out of here.
 

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Oh.. I can post now... Someone convince me umar is not a fraud. I have more to say but most of y'all giving him certain outs to every scenario
 

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That's never going to happen due to the simple fact that whites are afraid of blacks getting too much power.

So reparations for other groups is fine, but for blacks? Whites have too big a hard on for blacks to allow that to happen.

Why are you so upset with this man and his opinions?
I called him on being dishonest while running a message calling people dishonest.

I'm calling him on saying what black people do for black people (Frederick Douglas) is negated and he shouldn't be respected because he married a white woman.

I'm calling him on implying Harry Belafonte isn't worthy of his respect, despite him not even being able to hold a torch to what Harry Belafonte has done for blacks.

I'm calling him on being a hypocrite.

He speaks on ideas not based on real numbers.

He hasn't shown how his rhetoric has helped.

And to be honest systematic racism has crippled black people, but being unable to distinguish between the racist and the ally, finding a problem and a real solution, and not actually accepting that his argument isn't perfect just because he says it.

If y'all think you're going to create change or that change has been created without the help of some white people you're lying to yourself.

If I'm a coin for recognizing you'll need allies then you're saying MLK is also a c00n.

But most of y'all like him for the same reason y'all like lavar and none of it has to do with actually helping black people.

Just cause a nikka is out here talking that Pan African shyt doesn't mean he's above criticism.


This is my last post in this thread. Y'all do y'all. Good luck.
 

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No he wasn't. All those statistics he rattled off were wrong as fukk. And the whole idea of a "nuclear family" has NEVER been the way black people lived. It's a relatively new concept born out of the industrial/economic boom in America.

Which is why it's so ironic that all these self described "pan-Africans" and "black supremacist" are now claiming black people are so flawed for not following the cac way of living :francis:
How hasn't there been a nuclear family ?
 
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