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As far as Roland and his stance on abortion.
@valet I would disagree with your take. I grew up in the Church too , and I think people in politics today note the difference between their personal religious beliefs and real world medical and social realities. Women having access to safe abortion options is real life issue that many would support, regardless of their views about abortion being morally wrong or right.
When the footage starts they are having a side debate over semantics anti-abortion or pro life.
Don't know what they were discussing before the convo pivoted into that. .She was defending her stance, I assume. If she was there to defend the "Republican side" after the SOTU, then she would have lost being in that room. She might as well have stepped into a lion's den.
Not just a room full of people who lean Democrat, but people with high level experience in Fed. govt. who know the intricacies of what is being discussed. The gentleman with the white hair is economist William Spriggs. He and the other lady worked in the Obama administration
And with other panelists, she had no chance.