Roe and Casey to be overturned by SCOTUS; Draft opinion by Alito leaks to POLITICO

[Professor Emeritus]

It might be time for us to start having this conversation. I thought shyt was a joke at first.. but with the way things are going.. its not gonna get any better. This orange shaded motherfukker really broke America.

Reagan to Gingrich to Trump, with assists from the Federalist Society, Mitch McConnell, and the Tea Party. Breaking America was a long process.

I don't know what the "conversation" is though. I can't see any way to move without making shyt even more fukked up for more people. If a few "liberal" states pull out then the vast majority of Black folk are left in the fukked-up remnant. And there's obviously no pathway to kick just a few conservative states out, the rest of the country would never accept it.

 

[Hood Critic]

You can't just split America as it is today, too much to decouple. I keep it saying it but this will be known as the age where the third major party rises.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

You can't just split America as it is today, too much to decouple. I keep it saying it but this will be known as the age where the third major party rises.

The viability of a resurgence of a third party started in 2016 when both candidates were hated.

The difficulty is that while the dissatisfaction in the parties has remained at 2016 levels or gotten stronger..the ideological spectrum is also widening. A centrist 3rd party would then theoretically be viable but it wouldnt be motivating to voters or worthwhile in practice because there are enough little mini voting blocs in congress that act as such.

I'm trying to rack my brain on how a third party would have to be formulated to get traction and it would have to hit enough of the hot button issues on both sides to attract the one issue voters while also having a consistent overall branding of messaging values.

I really do think its doable honestly but it would have to be a bottom up operation that is supportive of lower and middle classes and in local positions and state congresses. The green party and libertarian party approach of sinking funds into White House bids to shift narratives or steal votes tactically on behalf of other parties is just stupid

 

[the cac mamba]

I've been saying this for years. Not sure why it's such a taboo topic when it's the only sensible solution to the problems in our country.

because its not sensible

shouldnt you just want stronger states rights, so people can move to where their values are reflected?

and yeah, i know everyone cant just pick up and move. but they wouldnt be able to just move after their state officially seceded, either

you want people stuck behind *country* lines in mississippi and alabama? they tried that once

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Reagan to Gingrich to Trump, with assists from the Federalist Society, Mitch McConnell, and the Tea Party. Breaking America was a long process.

I don't know what the "conversation" is though. I can't see any way to move without making shyt even more fukked up for more people. If a few "liberal" states pull out then the vast majority of Black folk are left in the fukked-up remnant. And there's obviously no pathway to kick just a few conservative states out, the rest of the country would never accept it.

If you let Texas secede the electoral is wrapped up for Dems and the Texans get what they want. Immediately sign strong trade deals that mirror current business and you might have a deal to be made. They could also just be a protectorate rather than a state

 

[Regular_P]

because its not sensible

shouldnt you just want stronger states rights, so people can move to where their values are reflected?

and yeah, i know everyone cant just pick up and move. but they wouldnt be able to just move after their state officially seceded, either

you want people stuck behind *country* lines in mississippi and alabama? they tried that once

Stronger state's rights separate countries

 

[jj23]

What do the Dems need to do to change.

The party has become slow and bloated.

Folks complaining about Roe vs Wade but aren't keeping the same energy as Republicans go back to basics and pack school districts, and local government.

No real infrastructure seems to have been put in place to fight this.

Republicans and the Tea Party right are setting up to reshape America ideologically and Dems are dissenting on twitter, instead of engaging.

I dunno what it will take at this stage to get Dems to wake up and be active in civil life.

You may not agree with everything but not voting means potentially losing liberties later. Instead folks have convinced people with no political leverage to use their votes as a weapon.

Either form a solid third party alternative, and start making a difference locally until you can challenge federally or get behind the Dems and create change from within.

 

[Red Shield]

eh if this country breaks up.. it ain't just breaking up on left/right lines.

if folk are goin their separate ways.. then we're all going our separate ways

 

[Trust Me]

I think everyone agrees on a third party needing to be implemented.. but the problem is.. at this rate.. with the way shyts going.. this country is gonna be ashes by the time that third party gets up and running. The right is gonna burn this country down.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

This is like your 4th post in this thread mentioning progressives.

We get it ..stop shyt posting

Isn't John Reena just another Nap alias? Hard to keep up, but I thought that name was just a sub division of the Nap account team.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Do you actually think they're above trying to pull that shyt off? Let me break it down for you. If they had their way.. there would be NO MORE minorities in this country. There would only be Christianity. Women would cook, clean and fukk. That's it. This would be the land of the wealthy, and if you're not white and rich, you'll be working for the ones that are.

These people are literally saying this shyt out loud, and some people refuse to believe them. shyt is so off the wall, that people think they're trolling for political purposes. But nah.. this is how they are. Now here we are, having to fight for our women to be able to have control of their own bodies.

Do you realize how many white people would be out of work is slavery was reinstated? Do you think they would tolerate that?

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

Ya notice how progressives like Bernie, AOC, etc., always start their tweets with “Congress needs to….” Like dawg…..you are actually in Congress….log off Twitter an do ya job man. Simple.

You're such an idiot. You do know the two Democrats that hold power are Chuck and Nancy? Right?

"Log off and do your job?" How about you tell Chuck, Nancy, and Sleepy Joe to do their job. So now that Roe v Wade will be overturned what are your corporate politicians going to do about this?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If you let Texas secede the electoral is wrapped up for Dems and the Texans get what they want. Immediately sign strong trade deals that mirror current business and you might have a deal to be made. They could also just be a protectorate rather than a state

Technically that's not even close to true. Take out Texas's electoral votes and Trump still beats Hillary by close to 50. Technically you could take out Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, and Tennessee and Trump would STILL have beaten Hillary. (Sounds crazy but there's a big difference between 'taking out' electoral votes as opposed to switching them to the opps.)

And that would leave a ton of Black folk fukked over in racist "Confederencia" with no oversight.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

We need more than a third party, we need to be a parliamentary government. We need parties around a smaller number of issues who then forge alliances on overlap issues, I honestly think that’s the only way we’d check the minority right rule, stop the nonsensical acceptance of illogical sex/gender issues and see people on different sides of the cultural wars still come together for economic/social welfare issues