Roc Marciano & Alchemist - The Elephant Man’s Bones (Discussion Thread)

[Corndog]

Been around since the 80s come on man that's PREME Uncle AL put in mad work and I have no problems with abyone putting him in their top 5 or 10s.

Yeah Premo's been in the game since forever, but I can count on my fingers the number of beats he's made this millennium that I thought were really top tier. His beats, as godly as they often are, were never exactly unpredictable, and the formula got stale. Really not trying to hate on the man, I have nothing but respect for the classic material, but these are my feelings, it is what it is.

 

[Unknown Poster]

This that real nikka music.

 

[spliz]

Besides

Stigmata
Daddy Kane

This album sounds like random ass sounds thrown together


This shyt terrible

get ur ears checked.

 

[Funcrusher]

I'm high and this shyt hittin



This that god level rap

Listening to Roc Marci high really elevates his music. Every bar he's painting a picture and then when you actually picture one, a new one unfolds. Quite the experience, haven't done that in a long time.

 

[u mad son?]

Als in my top 5 producers hands down

for the last 6/7 years i been saying he floating there abouts but his output since 2010 onwards has confirmed it for me.

Mans are bringing up Primo and im sorry but that dude has been releasing mid tier boom bap beats for decades now.

If you heard that Primo was producing a whole project for anyone at this stage its just like .... hmmm, id rather alc do it. His album with MC Eiht was super underwhelming. His beat for that new Nas joint was mid too.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Als in my top 5 producers hands down

for the last 6/7 years i been saying he floating there abouts but his output since 2010 onwards has confirmed it for me.

Mans are bringing up Primo and im sorry but that dude has been releasing mid tier boom bap beats for decades now.

If you heard that Primo was producing a whole project for anyone at this stage its just like .... hmmm, id rather alc do it. His album with MC Eiht was super underwhelming. His beat for that new Nas joint was mid too.

Blaqprint is one of my favorite post Ownerz era collection of Preem beats. Low key a lot of cars were hating on him during The Ownerz too. That album didn’t get the live it deserved until later IMO. His best style became a little more minimalist on that album compared to Moment of Truth. I love that album though.

The last Gang Starr album was fantastic too

 

[spliz]

U.N Roc is the best version

Disagree.

 

[NormanConnors]

Als in my top 5 producers hands down

for the last 6/7 years i been saying he floating there abouts but his output since 2010 onwards has confirmed it for me.

Mans are bringing up Primo and im sorry but that dude has been releasing mid tier boom bap beats for decades now.

If you heard that Primo was producing a whole project for anyone at this stage its just like .... hmmm, id rather alc do it. His album with MC Eiht was super underwhelming. His beat for that new Nas joint was mid too.

In my top 5 as well but Alch has been spreading himself a bit too thin imo, project is far from his best work. Output has been heavy but with that has increased the mid factor on some of his beats, cats have to pick the beats though.

 

[NormanConnors]

Disagree.

That Roc was spittin, this Roc sounds like a journalist holding a tape recorder jotting down thoughts

 

[Unknown Poster]

U.N Roc is the best version

As much as I like UN Roc Marciano, he really improved his style and just took it to it's limits.
This is a more refined and more potent Roc Marciano on this album.
Better than Marcberg era Roc Marciano.

 

[dizzy4111]

I don’t see a big comparison between these two. Not with activity. There’s not another producer that’s released more music with vocals on it in hip hop than Alc. Madlib is close if you count best tapes. But as far as projects with rappers on them, Al is right around 45 projects from 1st Infantry to now if you don’t include beat tapes or all the loosies he’s dropped and placements he’s had.

No one is really close to that kind of output besides Madlib. I know people know that Al has released a ton of collab and compilation projects but I don’t know how many people realize that he’s almost done 50 of them.

With no end in sight

 

[breakfuss]

Liquid Coke and Quantum Leap are MEAN.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

I wonder how far Roc had his hands in the production on this album, some of these samples sound like some shyt Roc would use

 

[Zero]

Liquid Coke and Quantum Leap are MEAN.

Liquid Coke was legit stuck in my head at work yesterday

 

[ECA]

Un Roc didn't have quoteables like this. Yall aren't serious