RIP Brand Split: This Wildcard Rule is trash

[Busby]

All good points in this thread, but its stuff we've known for years.

WWE caters to an audience of one, and until he dies or is on the brink of bankruptcy, nothing will change.

and maybe this is it. But we'll see, I've gotten my hopes up before.


edit: Also, has there ever been a form of entertainment that's had such open disdain for its fanbase like wrestling? Willfully going against those that the fans organically choose. Taking shots and making fun of the marks/smarks. You don't see Disney / Marvel and any artists doing this.

Vince always go OUT THE WAY to shyt on the fans when they act a way he doesn’t want.

Hell Vince is notorious to coming out of gorilla and telling the fans to lighten up when he feels the crowd is dead.

At the end of the year day, Vince McMahon is the problem. I don’t blame the wrestlers, creative, or anybody else. I put everything on HIM because HE allows all this shyt to go down.

He purposely doesn’t build up other superstars just to keep his favorites strong (I.E. Roman and Charlotte). If the ratings go down, instead of looking in the mirror , he blames the wrestlers that HE BOOKED.

Vinny Mac can’t pull this type of shyt with a major network like Fox. ESPECIALLY on a FRIDAY? He pulls the bullshyt he does on USA, FOX WILL drop them. And they are NOT afraid to do it..

Hunter gotta take the keys man....

 

[Busby]

The bolded is really the most important thing. For a company that is on record saying that they think they can be bigger than Disney (), they really don't appear to have learned anything at all from them.

Despite being a huge Marvel fan, I largely can't stand Disney, but I respect that that know exactly how to get every dime out of their customer base: pay attention, and just give them more of what they want. The Avengers just pulled in over two billion in TWO WEEKS simply because they built up goodwill for their customers to have faith in them, and then rewarded their trust with a movie that was largely three hours of fan service. Three really good hours of fan service, but fan service nonetheless. They basically have a money printer until they just say fukk it and start cranking out non-stop garbage.

How WWE hasn't figured that out from other companies is absolutely beyond me.

Vince McMahon has the mindset of old out of touch rich republican.

 

[Legal]

Vince McMahon has the mindset of old out of touch rich republican.

Sheeeeeeit.

Even they've figured out how to fool their constituents into thinking they care enough about them to garner support. Vince is still trying to figure out how to buy into the entry level of the loyalty mindfukk program.

 

[richaveli83]

The brand split only worked in 2002-until they started having the whole roster appear on the same ppvs outside of the big ones(Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, etc). When they brought it back a couple of years ago they didn't treat it like a brand split. I remember in 2002 the announcers from Raw and Smackdown would talk shyt about each other and it would help sell the rivalry.

If they want ratings for Smackdown they need to treat it equally like they did from 1999-2002. Have the big stars show up on both shows, angles and developments from Raw carry over to Smackdown, etc.

 

[richaveli83]

Lol at the other way to fix this in Vince logic:


Put fewer clips up on Youtube

I don't know why they put clips on YouTube, Twitter, etc. You can almost watch the entire show without actually watching the show.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

So just because we don’t watch means we can’t visit the forum?

I just don't understand how some dudes who "don't watch" know more about the stories than the guys who are watching..

 

[Tryna Makit]

I don't know why they put clips on YouTube, Twitter, etc. You can almost watch the entire show without actually watching the show.

Between that and streams this is exactly how i watch wrestling lol...take a bullshyt 3 hour show and trim it down to and hour or less, them boys out there doin da lords work

 

[Mikael Blowpiff]

low key it’s fukked up that kofi got the big belt when the company is on the precipice of a big decline

 

[Microfracture]

When they gave Finn AND Roman to Smackdown I was thinking NBC had to be heated. You can build whole shows around those guys and be good especially with a tighter 2 hour window.

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

Sheeeeeeit.

Even they've figured out how to fool their constituents into thinking they care enough about them to garner support. Vince is still trying to figure out how to buy into the entry level of the loyalty mindfukk program.

He already has. Some of the posters here are proof of that.

Cokeboy can indoctrinate people as soon as they're old enough to understand what TV is. There are lifetime fans, who have introduced generations of their family to Vince's fukkery.

 

[RammerJammer]

The brand split only worked in 2002-until they started having the whole roster appear on the same ppvs outside of the big ones(Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, etc). When they brought it back a couple of years ago they didn't treat it like a brand split. I remember in 2002 the announcers from Raw and Smackdown would talk shyt about each other and it would help sell the rivalry.

If they want ratings for Smackdown they need to treat it equally like they did from 1999-2002. Have the big stars show up on both shows, angles and developments from Raw carry over to Smackdown, etc.

But the split did work in 2016-17, single branded PPVs, no Raw recaps, and like the Orton/Lesnar feud, when one showed up, they didn’t go through the stage, they went through the crowd and security ran em off. It really was treated like a real brand war but once Corey Graves and Renee Young started being on both shows and Cena became a free agent, I knew it was leading up to this moment.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Should've pushed Braun. Oh well.

Thank GOD for AEW.

 

[RammerJammer]

Should've pushed Braun. Oh well.

Thank GOD for AEW.

Braun was extremely over in 2017 then he kept getting hoe’d but Lesnar and turned into a joke. He should’ve won the Universal Title at No Mercy.

Asuka is another one, I swear she was the most over wrestler in early 2018, had the whole undefeated streak going for and not only did she lose to Charlotte at WrestleMania but she tapped out and raised her hand after the match and did nothing but float after that, won the SD Women’s Title, made the piping hot Becky tap out at RR and couldn’t even get on the main card at Mania

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Braun was extremely over in 2017 then he kept getting hoe’d but Lesnar and turned into a joke. He should’ve won the Universal Title at No Mercy.

Asuka is another one, I swear she was the most over wrestler in early 2018, had the whole undefeated streak going for and not only did she lose to Charlotte at WrestleMania but she tapped out and raised her hand after the match and did nothing but float after that, won the SD Women’s Title, made the piping hot Becky tap out at RR and couldn’t even get on the main card at Mania

If AEW takes off then they need to head over there especially Asuka. Sasha Banks should head over there too. I know many will disagree but I would live MVP in AEW.

This is why i am LOVING the idea of AEW a big alternative wrestler promotion for not just fans but also wrestlers. IF AEW takes off I would head over there if I was Braun.

 

[MMS]

reason the ratings are bad is because kayfabe been dead

when they drop the "sports entertainment" shtick and get back to WRESTLING is when people might buy back in.

The spot fests and pre-done scripts just aren't as engaging as they'd like to believe. Let wrestlers be wrestlers and downsize the writing. If they've learned anything from all their social media promotions they should know by now that virality and memes should be their go to. And neither of those things are really premeditated