Ridley Scott’s ‘The Martian’

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Didn't love this. It was good, not great. The tone felt off to me, sometimes superficial. I never really felt any real angst for Matt Damon's character. And what was up with Donny Glover's character just showing up and dropping a brilliant idea and then kinda fading in the background. That was weird. It also felt really long, like 20 minutes could have been edited out. I'm not trashing, because obviously a lot of effort went into both the script, directing, and acting, but I wouldn't want to watch this again.

One thumbs up.
 

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Hm, so because he questions the NSA program and the drone strikes, like many many many people have, that means he's got a problem with him because he's black?
You ask that question but I ask you has there been any pres in history they just referred to by their surname like he was a peer? Which actor spoke out against Reagan or Bush senior for all their failings. Liberals never went at Clinton for Rwanda or even Monika Lewinsky (cept feminist's and comedians) He spoke out because he like many (despite their political views) were waiting with baited breath to pass judgement
 

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You ask that question but I ask you has there been any pres in history they just referred to by their surname like he was a peer? Which actor spoke out against Reagan or Bush senior for all their failings. Liberals never went at Clinton for Rwanda or even Monika Lewinsky (cept feminist's and comedians) He spoke out because he like many (despite their political views) were waiting with baited breath to pass judgement

First off, you're doing what no one should ever do which is assume you know how someone you don't know is thinking or what their motivation is. Now if you happen to be cool with Matt Damon and can give us all some insight that's different but until then, you're just throwing stuff at a wall to see what works.

Secondly, I can't tell you specific actors who spoke out against Reagan but I know John Carpenter did and even made a movie about his feelings toward Reagan and his brand of conservatism in general but I haven't done a deep dive into who said what about him then and the same goes for Bush when it comes to the simpsons calling him out but again, I haven't done a deep dive so that's off the top of my head.

Now as far as Clinton goes, I've done research on that because of a class I took and you're right, comedians got at him, other politicians got at him (including liberals) and the west wing is a direct response to him, not for his thing with Monica, but just for his brand of liberalism which was triangulation and being a centrist. BUT, I'd argue that him doing what he did with Monica is in no way shape or form equal to what the NSA did. Not even close and I'm a hardcore liberal who's campaigned for Obama, campaigned for his surrogates, and voted for the man twice and would do it a 3rd time. But I can still have issues with things the man has done and there's nothing wrong with Damon, you, me, or any other celebrity who voted for the man, campaigned for the man, and donated handsomely to his campaign to speak up about it.

If you want to say that's because he's black, cool, that's how you feel but I'm not going to pretend to know what someone I never met is thinking, especially when I understand exactly where he's coming from
 
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First off, you're doing what no one should ever do which is assume you know how someone you don't know is thinking or what their motivation is. Now if you happen to be cool with Matt Damon and can give us all some insight that's different but until then, you're just throwing stuff at a wall to see what works.

Secondly, I can't tell you specific actors who spoke out against Reagan but I know John Carpenter did and even made a movie about his feelings toward Reagan and his brand of conservatism in general but I haven't done a deep dive into who said what about him then and the same goes for Bush when it comes to the simpsons calling him out but again, I haven't done a deep dive so that's off the top of my head.

Now as far as Clinton goes, I've done research on that because of a class I took and you're right, comedians got at him, other politicians got at him (including liberals) and the west wing is a direct response to him, not for his thing with Monica, but just for his brand of liberalism which was triangulation and being a centrist. BUT, I'd argue that him doing what he did with Monica is in no way shape or form equal to what the NSA did. Not even close and I'm a hardcore liberal who's campaigned for Obama, campaigned for his surrogates, and voted for the man twice and would do it a 3rd time. But I can still have issues with things the man has done and there's nothing wrong with Damon, you, me, or any other celebrity who voted for the man, campaigned for the man, and donated handsomely to his campaign to speak up about it.

If you want to say that's because he's black, cool, that's how you feel but I'm not going to pretend to know what someone I never met is thinking, especially when I understand exactly where he's coming from
Its not that ppl spoke out, I am talking about celebrities with the same politic views speaking out against a prez of the same party, are Matt Groening and John carpenter uber republicans...
 

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First off, you're doing what no one should ever do which is assume you know how someone you don't know is thinking or what their motivation is. Now if you happen to be cool with Matt Damon and can give us all some insight that's different but until then, you're just throwing stuff at a wall to see what works.

Secondly, I can't tell you specific actors who spoke out against Reagan but I know John Carpenter did and even made a movie about his feelings toward Reagan and his brand of conservatism in general but I haven't done a deep dive into who said what about him then and the same goes for Bush when it comes to the simpsons calling him out but again, I haven't done a deep dive so that's off the top of my head.

Now as far as Clinton goes, I've done research on that because of a class I took and you're right, comedians got at him, other politicians got at him (including liberals) and the west wing is a direct response to him, not for his thing with Monica, but just for his brand of liberalism which was triangulation and being a centrist. BUT, I'd argue that him doing what he did with Monica is in no way shape or form equal to what the NSA did. Not even close and I'm a hardcore liberal who's campaigned for Obama, campaigned for his surrogates, and voted for the man twice and would do it a 3rd time. But I can still have issues with things the man has done and there's nothing wrong with Damon, you, me, or any other celebrity who voted for the man, campaigned for the man, and donated handsomely to his campaign to speak up about it.

If you want to say that's because he's black, cool, that's how you feel but I'm not going to pretend to know what someone I never met is thinking, especially when I understand exactly where he's coming from
i see my ignore feature is still working :mjlol: what airhead are you arguing with now
 

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Its not that ppl spoke out, I am talking about celebrities with the same politic views speaking out against a prez of the same party, are Matt Groening and John carpenter uber republicans...

The only famous republicans, celebrity wise in hollywood anyway, that I can think of are Clint Eastwood, james woods, and jon voight. oh and i just found out adam sandler is one but no one's going to ask adam sandler his opinion on anything political. ever. Maybe Clint said some shyt maybe he didn't, I really don't give a damn but that also doesn't go against my larger point that if he has a certain feeling and wants to speak on it, he should be able to especially since it's a feeling a lot of liberals had/have. And republicans in hollywood are like unicorns at this point
i see my ignore feature is still working :mjlol: what airhead are you arguing with now

:ohhh: first off at you still being awake

:lupe: B. @Roman Brady is on your ignore list? He's saying that Matt Damon only has an issue with Obama's NSA policies because he's black, not because of the policies themselves and it's his blackness that makes it cool for him to say something about it in public and that if he was white, he wouldn't have said anything
 

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The only famous republicans, celebrity wise in hollywood anyway, that I can think of are Clint Eastwood, james woods, and jon voight. oh and i just found out adam sandler is one but no one's going to ask adam sandler his opinion on anything political. ever. Maybe Clint said some shyt maybe he didn't, I really don't give a damn but that also doesn't go against my larger point that if he has a certain feeling and wants to speak on it, he should be able to especially since it's a feeling a lot of liberals had/have. And republicans in hollywood are like unicorns at this point


:ohhh: first off at you still being awake

:lupe: B. @Roman Brady is on your ignore list?
:laff: I told you I'm an insomniac breh!

I got so many people on my list i dont even kno who i have anymore or for what reason. all it takes is one incident with me :mjlol:
 

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:laff: I told you I'm an insomniac breh!

I got so many people on my list i dont even kno who i have anymore or for what reason. all it takes is one incident with me :mjlol:

:ld: i ain't mad breh. Back on topic though since I'm sure most people in here want to discuss the martian and not american politics in the 21st century, Martian is still dope
 

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but you sound 7 tho :why: can you not reply like an adolescent at least

Ok. In addition to what @MartyMcFly just said, Obama's Justice department did not prosecute any of the bankers that crashed the economy. That is egregious. Obama should have pushed Eric Holder to put Wall Stree criminals in jail with the same determination that they lock up our brothers who sell drugs.

Btw, Eric Holder just went back to work for the same law firm that represents a lot of Wall Street banks.

I voted and campaigned for the guy twice, but I have been very critical of him for some of these things. If I had a larger platform like Matt Damon, I would criticize him publicly as well. This is our duty as citizens.

He works for us not the other way around.
 

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Ok. In addition to what @MartyMcFly just said, Obama's Justice department did not prosecute any of the bankers that crashed the economy. That is egregious. Obama should have pushed Eric Holder to put Wall Stree criminals in jail with the same determination that they lock up our brothers who sell drugs.

Btw, Eric Holder just went back to work for the same law firm that represents a lot of Wall Street banks.

I voted and campaigned for the guy twice, but I have been very critical of him for some of these things. If I had a larger platform like Matt Damon, I would criticize him publicly as well. This is our duty as citizens.

He works for us not the other way around.
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