:belip: im not talking about charity, etc
there are no tangible positive effects resulting from the belief in god. 0. it is 100% belief and faith
if you got cancer and you could either go to the doctor or pray, but not both, we all know what youd do
Richard Dawkins debate organized religion has no place in 21st Century (VID)
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:belip: im not talking about charity, etc
there are no tangible positive effects resulting from the belief in god. 0. it is 100% belief and faith
if you got cancer and you could either go to the doctor or pray, but not both, we all know what youd do
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
you cant claim that morality is derived from god, because there is no tangible evidence of this. i think killing is wrong because i have felt the pain of losing a loved one and can empathize with the family of someone who dies. also, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, we only have these 80 years on earth. so to deprive someone of that life prematurely would be wrong.
i dont need an invisible being who has supposedly revealed himself to humans a thousand different ways to tell me whats right and wrong. if he wants my respect he can tell me himself, like he apparently did 2000 years ago
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
religion is teaching children and adults morals everyday
what science class did you ever have that taught you not to steal from others?
you dont need to believe in some bullshyt space god to teach someone not to steal, so im not sure what your point is
religion has also taught people that humans must be sacrificed to appease the gods, so the crops will grow
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
science never taught you not to steal
so whats your point? science is responsible for every weapon of destruction
i already agreed with that
science has tangible negatives and positives, belief in god only has tangible negatives. once again, strong emphasis on TANGIBLE
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
i already agreed with that
science has tangible negatives and positives, belief in god only has tangible negatives. once again, strong emphasis on TANGIBLE
well then if you agree with that how can you agree it is any better than religion in that aspect if not on equal levels of capability to cause harm?
for every person that died because of a religious zealot there is someone suffering or dying because a gun is being pointed at their skulls
if you put a bible in a room with a child and in another room put a science book in a room with another child what would happen? equal opportunity to cause harm
yes, but there are tangible positive effects that can result with the science book. there are no tangible positive effects for putting faith into god and believing he is there.
your point about morals is irrelevant because you dont need religion to have morals
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
yo im tired of this gay ass devils advocate shyt u keep doin
why dont u take a fukkin stance on something?
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
nothing im doing here involves homosexual demons friend
where do morals come from?
people interacting with each other, and sharing a common ground both physically and emotionally
Dirty_Jerz
Ethiop
i like that theory but it really has alot of contradictions but that is sort of a different topic too
name one