Rich kids run basketball now

[Saint1]

What that gotta do with the oncourt product

I just hate watching another man make stupid miskates

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Meant the tagline used in the IG post. "If your child has aspirations to be an NBA player"

As it completely ignores Gil having his own basketball rim, being a former player, etc.

AAU being a near requirement for kids now even with the exorbitant prices

My son will probably never sniff the NBA, college is probably where water will meet its level. That said, he's currently in 5th grade and on two teams. I'm not dragging him out of bed at 5 in the morning, but I'd say his workload is pretty heavy. This is his schedule for this week.

Sunday: 2 games with 5th grade team
Monday: 2 hour practice with 5th grade team.
Tuesday: 1.5 hour practice with travel team
Wednesday: Relax
Thursday: 1 hour session with trainer
Friday: 2 hour practice with 5th grade team
Saturday: 2 games with travel team (they alternate games every other Saturday as next Saturday will be a 2 hour practice)

He is also going to have two games with 5th grade team this upcoming Sunday.

If your child is going to go down this path, like I and others have said in other threads, the grind starts early. He's getting 10.5 hours of basketball in a week and in terms of practice/training, he's getting 5.5-7.5 of quality instruction a week. Laying the foundation for that matters in an incremental sense. Back to the premise of this thread though, it is cost prohibitive for a lot of people. My son's elementary school team was only $200. Travel team? About $1000. Money like that for what is an extra-curricular for their kid doesn't happen all the time.

 

[Art Barr]

Alot of cats in this thread are focusing on the "rich" part and not on what you just pointed out...a lot of NBA nikkas are coming from parents who were elite athletes. Gone are the days where you're a NBA player and your pops was a garbage man or worked at a plant. Mitchell, Tatum, Brown, Currys, Thompson, Booker, Wemby, Miller, Morant, Doncic, Ball, Irving, Alexander, Jalen Williams, and many more have parents who competed at HS, collegiate and/or Pro/ international level.

its very rare nowadays you get a guy like Draymond, Cam Thomas or Edwards who are from the hood, had unremarkable parents, went to public HS (for a few years at least) and still made the league.

They eliminated the grassroots player breh.

They still exist.

It is just a rich white boi country club aesthetic. Has ruined basketball past the point of no return. Where you can not even go anywhere and play.
Mix it with their blatant attack on the black community using crack.

Then here we are.


Art Barr

 

[The War Report]

My son will probably never sniff the NBA, college is probably where water will meet its level. That said, he's currently in 5th grade and on two teams. I'm not dragging him out of bed at 5 in the morning, but I'd say his workload is pretty heavy. This is his schedule for this week.

Sunday: 2 games with 5th grade team
Monday: 2 hour practice with 5th grade team.
Tuesday: 1.5 hour practice with travel team
Wednesday: Relax
Thursday: 1 hour session with trainer
Friday: 2 hour practice with 5th grade team
Saturday: 2 games with travel team (they alternate games every other Saturday as next Saturday will be a 2 hour practice)

He is also going to have two games with 5th grade team this upcoming Sunday.

If your child is going to go down this path, like I and others have said in other threads, the grind starts early. He's getting 10.5 hours of basketball in a week and in terms of practice/training, he's getting 5.5-7.5 of quality instruction a week. Laying the foundation for that matters in an incremental sense. Back to the premise of this thread though, it is cost prohibitive for a lot of people. My son's elementary school team was only $200. Travel team? About $1000. Money like that for what is an extra-curricular for their kid doesn't happen all the time.

All of that just for the faintest shot of going pro.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

There was a good article written some years ago on The Undefeated about the gentrification of basketball. Definitely worth the read

Edit: found it below

The gentrification of college hoops

An Undefeated analysis shows that first-generation college students are starting to disappear from NCAA sports

andscape.com

 

[RickyGQ]

It really shouldn't be a surprise...the NBA is the league with the highest barrier of entry when it comes to genetics...if you're the child of a former NBA player (or any former pro athlete, really) you got a leg up in the genetic lottery

And like others said, NBA players from the hood been getting sent to basketball factories for decades now. Stephon Marbury for example, may have been from the hood but he went to one of the best public schools in New York City and was on a big AAU team

Yea but I’m not sure he would if he was coming up today. That spot would have went to a kid who’s dad had means to give him all types of training and could have legitimately gotten to 80% of Steph’s skillset with 40% of the athleticism. And everyone just agreed to be ok with that.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

All of that just for the faintest shot of going pro.

No, not by a long shot. The goal is a scholarship. It doesn't have to be a D1 school either. However, there are valuable lessons to be learned with this type to schedule. You learn to become more resilient, you learn how to sacrifice, you understand hard work and commitment to a schedule, you learn leadership skills, discipline, communication, time management skills. I'd rather him do in this than wasting time playing fortnite or 2k every day.

Besides, he enjoys it. I tell him consistently, I could be doing anything else with my money and time. I just want 100% effort. He gives it so I'm good with that. That said, I wouldn't do all this if I didn't think it wasn't attainable. Young iceberg is pretty nice so I'm a basketball dad till further notice.

 

[Art Barr]

All of that just for the faintest shot of going pro.

Again.

They changed basketball from a grassroots sport. Into a white luxury 80's country club sport.

Your son training like a third of potential tennis pro schedule wise.


Art Barr

 

[Hersh]

No, not by a long shot. The goal is a scholarship. It doesn't have to be a D1 school either. However, there are valuable lessons to be learned with this type to schedule. You learn to become more resilient, you learn how to sacrifice, you understand hard work and commitment to a schedule, you learn leadership skills, discipline, communication, time management skills. I'd rather him do in this than wasting time playing fortnite or 2k every day.

Besides, he enjoys it. I tell him consistently, I could be doing anything else with my money and time. I just want 100% effort. He gives it so I'm good with that. That said, I wouldn't do all this if I didn't think it wasn't attainable. Young iceberg is pretty nice so I'm a basketball dad till further notice.

feel that. brehs gotta understand "my kid probably won't make it to ... etc..," but a goal like scholarship is def attainable.. plus when he hits milestones (or misses) y'all can adjust as well.. where I'm sure ur son might ask u to "add or remove " to his schedule

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Yea but I’m not sure he would if he was coming up today. That spot would have went to a kid who’s dad had means to give him all types of training and could have legitimately gotten to 80% of Steph’s skillset with 40% of the athleticism. And everyone just agreed to be ok with that.

We gotta be realistic here breh, There is nobody who's going to see a talent like Marbury and saying "nah, we don't do broke over here "


How people developed this defeatist view of youth sports where people with money have virtually eliminated all access to everyone else is beyond me.

 

[RickyGQ]

We gotta be realistic here breh, There is nobody who's going to see a talent like Marbury and saying "nah, we don't do broke over here "


How people developed this defeatist view of youth sports where people with money have virtually eliminated all access to everyone else is beyond me.

So it’s just a coincidence that there are far less players from Marbury’s background in the league today? Are those kids just not as good anymore?

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

feel that. brehs gotta understand "my kid probably won't make it to ... etc..," but a goal like scholarship is def attainable.. plus when he hits milestones (or misses) y'all can adjust as well.. where I'm sure ur son might ask u to "add or remove " to his schedule

Right now, we are currently in the 'add' portion of this. In 4th grade, this level of schedule was presented to him, he said he wasn't ready for it. Everyone respected that decision. It came around again in 5th grade and he took it on this time. Before doing this, I wanted to make him sure he knew of the requirements/demands of this schedule. Case in point with discipline being a big one. You are an athlete, you need to treat your body like one. Sure, you can have your junk food but you know you can't indulge. Same with sleep, we will have to be about 2 hours aways from where we live on Saturday. Last time we were at this location, games started at 9am so we are leaving at 7am, getting up at 6am. Most kids would love to just fall asleep playing video games on Friday night and sleep in Saturday morning. He's on a different agenda now. It's the grind and I'm impressed that at his age, he embraces it.

 

[010101]

STARBURY came from a hooping family

he's not the example to use

he was the one that made it pro first but he had the map

he was not navigating out the hood with no guidance or structure

*

 

[Hersh]

Right now, we are currently in the 'add' portion of this. In 4th grade, this level of schedule was presented to him, he said he wasn't ready for it. Everyone respected that decision. It came around again in 5th grade and he took it on this time. Before doing this, I wanted to make him sure he knew of the requirements/demands of this schedule. Case in point with discipline being a big one. You are an athlete, you need to treat your body like one. Sure, you can have your junk food but you know you can't indulge. Same with sleep, we will have to be about 2 hours aways from where we live on Saturday. Last time we were at this location, games started at 9am so we are leaving at 7am, getting up at 6am. Most kids would love to just fall asleep playing video games on Friday night and sleep in Saturday morning. He's on a different agenda now. It's the grind and I'm impressed that at his age, he embraces it.

good luck to u and urs breh..

 

[triplehate]

Two people from my small town made it to division 1 college basketball and one to the NBA. But they both had dads that were really good so they just trained them at an early age. I just don't see how you would get enough reps playing pickup games after school past the year like 89 or some shyt

So that's what eliminates the random super athlete hooper that can't dribble with his left hand and had a weird form. But so many of them turned into people we clowned for being busts or players that you say "if he ever develops a jumper" WHY ISN'T HE ALREADY WORKING ON HIS JUMPER???? How do you show up at even 16 years old with no jumper? If you have a bad jumper it's poor work ethic and that's how they should be judged, because it's literally only one way to get better and you ignored it

*end of rant of why I hate nikkas with no jumper*