Revenge is a Dish Best Served GOLD: The Official 2012 SF 49ers Season Thread

[B90X]

Yeah, I don't think there is any intention of taking Davis out the gameplan, it just happens because he draws so much attention on D.

I think you're spot on about not trusting the WR's, I`d love to see AJ get a few his way just to see if he can do something.

While I believe that he draws attention on Defense, so does Gronk/Gonzalez/Gates, etc. and the OC still finds ways to get them involved and in the game plan.

If Gronk can be running around wide open down the field, I see no reason that VD can't have the same success. I'm putting the onus on the playcalling to find ways to get him open, straight up. You think Gronk/Gonzalez/Gates, etc aren't seeing double teams? I'm sorry, but I'm tired of that "He draws so much attention" excuse when there are other TE's in the league putting up better numbers that have to be drawing the same attention. It's time for the coaches to become as creative with getting the ball to VD as they are with running the ball.

That's probably the only gripe I have with the coaching staff.

 

[feelosofer]

While I believe that he draws attention on Defense, so does Gronk/Gonzalez/Gates, etc. and the OC still finds ways to get them involved and in the game plan.

If Gronk can be running around wide open down the field, I see no reason that VD can't have the same success. I'm putting the onus on the playcalling to find ways to get him open, straight up. You think Gronk/Gonzalez/Gates, etc aren't seeing double teams? I'm sorry, but I'm tired of that "He draws so much attention" excuse when there are other TE's in the league putting up better numbers that have to be drawing the same attention. It's time for the coaches to become as creative with getting the ball to VD as they are with running the ball.

That's probably the only gripe I have with the coaching staff.

This and VD is a superior athlete, we need him to have a breakout game, because he is a matchup nightmare, I think getting him involved will open up more opportunities to get the ball to guys Moss (who is still a playmaker) and Crabs who has quietly had a very good season.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Had to do it, copped a Kaep jersey off E-bay

Looks like a good quality bootleg, $60. We riding with the kid

http://www.ebay.com/itm/49ERS-COLIN...US_Football_Fan_Shop&var=&hash=item2325fd95fd

 

[yseJ]

While I believe that he draws attention on Defense, so does Gronk/Gonzalez/Gates, etc. and the OC still finds ways to get them involved and in the game plan.

If Gronk can be running around wide open down the field, I see no reason that VD can't have the same success. I'm putting the onus on the playcalling to find ways to get him open, straight up. You think Gronk/Gonzalez/Gates, etc aren't seeing double teams? I'm sorry, but I'm tired of that "He draws so much attention" excuse when there are other TE's in the league putting up better numbers that have to be drawing the same attention. It's time for the coaches to become as creative with getting the ball to VD as they are with running the ball.

That's probably the only gripe I have with the coaching staff.

all of these TEs you listed have far superior passing games. brady and ryan pass a ton, we don't. brady, ryan, rivers run 3wr sets very often. we don't.
all these teams (especially the falcons) have WRs that opponents are scared shytless of (well SD doesnt this year but whatever), we dont really. crabs is great possession guy and ham been a good pickup, but realistically if we run 1-2 WR sets out there, they will take chances with double teaming VD

another thing about VD is that hes a great athlete, but hes not an elite pass catcher, if that makes sense. we cant just throw it up for him to catch like tony g or gates can.

also, all these qbs will take more chances if their TEs are covered, we dont.

and yes, our playcalling is largely vanilla in that sense that we dont try creative things with VD in terms of routes. its usually wheel post or out. we even pretty much stopped running go routes with him, the ones we used a lot in the sing days.

 

[Heretic]

Had to do it, copped a Kaep jersey off E-bay

Looks like a good quality bootleg, $60. We riding with the kid

49ers Colin Kaepernick 7 RBK Home Jersey Get Ready for The Palyoffs | eBay

Looks real to me. Plus its a reebok jersey so u mighta got lucky bc i dont like the feel of the nike authentic jerseys

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Looks real to me. Plus its a reebok jersey so u mighta got lucky bc i dont like the feel of the nike authentic jerseys

Yep, I got the Aldon Nike one and I hate how it fits, they're much worse than the RBK ones.

That's another reason I copped, it looks real and it's the reebok cut and shyt only cost me $55.

It says it comes on Monday though. wish I had the shyt for SNF

 

[B90X]

all of these TEs you listed have far superior passing games. brady and ryan pass a ton, we don't. brady, ryan, rivers run 3wr sets very often. we don't.
all these teams (especially the falcons) have WRs that opponents are scared shytless of (well SD doesnt this year but whatever), we dont really. crabs is great possession guy and ham been a good pickup, but realistically if we run 1-2 WR sets out there, they will take chances with double teaming VD

another thing about VD is that hes a great athlete, but hes not an elite pass catcher, if that makes sense. we cant just throw it up for him to catch like tony g or gates can.

also, all these qbs will take more chances if their TEs are covered, we dont.

and yes, our playcalling is largely vanilla in that sense that we dont try creative things with VD in terms of routes. its usually wheel post or out. we even pretty much stopped running go routes with him, the ones we used a lot in the sing days.

I can agree with you on the Falcons WR's, but not the Pats. Honestly, what receivers do the Pats have that people are scared shytless of? I'll give you Welker, but other than that?
There's no excuse for VD to be more involved in the passing game, I'm sorry. The Pats can literally plug in a receiver and keep it moving. If we're the championship team we think we are, we need to have all of our playmakers involved in the gameplan. If VD's being double covered, find a way to get him a ball running some option routes or crossing patterns. Something.

I'm just tired of the excuses.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I can agree with you on the Falcons WR's, but not the Pats. Honestly, what receivers do the Pats have that people are scared shytless of? I'll give you Welker, but other than that?
There's no excuse for VD to be more involved in the passing game, I'm sorry. The Pats can literally plug in a receiver and keep it moving. If we're the championship team we think we are, we need to have all of our playmakers involved in the gameplan. If VD's being double covered, find a way to get him a ball running some option routes or crossing patterns. Something.

I'm just tired of the excuses.

Lloyd is a legit threat

 

[B90X]

Lloyd is a legit threat

He really hasn't done anything this year. The Falcons' receivers are more legit to the point I'm making with the TE's.
Let's just say Brandon Lloyd is getting safety help over the top.

 

[Heretic]

Yep, I got the Aldon Nike one and I hate how it fits, they're much worse than the RBK ones.

That's another reason I copped, it looks real and it's the reebok cut and shyt only cost me $55.

It says it comes on Monday though. wish I had the shyt for SNF

Yeah unless u got expedited shipping then monday it is. I know performance wise nike jerseys are better but casual wise they feel like t-shirts

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

He really hasn't done anything this year. The Falcons' receivers are more legit to the point I'm making with the TE's.
Let's just say Brandon Lloyd is getting safety help over the top.

Yeah this year he hasn't been great but that's Brady distributing the ball to everyone, he is still someone you have to worry about.

Yeah the Pats WR's aint the Falcon's WR's but the Pats QB >>>>>>>>>>> Falcons QB

 

[yseJ]

I can agree with you on the Falcons WR's, but not the Pats. Honestly, what receivers do the Pats have that people are scared shytless of? I'll give you Welker, but other than that?
There's no excuse for VD to be more involved in the passing game, I'm sorry. The Pats can literally plug in a receiver and keep it moving. If we're the championship team we think we are, we need to have all of our playmakers involved in the gameplan. If VD's being double covered, find a way to get him a ball running some option routes or crossing patterns. Something.

I'm just tired of the excuses.

its not really an excuse, we arent a passing team and when we pass its like pulling teeth sometimes...other team has brady and mcdaniels, julio and roddy, and we are not even sure if its johnny morton whos calling passing plays or greg roman

I agree with the basic premise of us getting the ball more to him, but what can you do when hes not open ? especially since we are playing it very safe with our throws...when we go 2 TE sets teams double VD and leave walker open. obviously theyd rather have a guy with 12 catches and 7 drops beat em instead of VD

oh and brady has aaron hernandez as the 2nd TE. imagine us having that guy instead of TD-dropping ass walker, whos yet another great athlete, but a weak pass catcher

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Yeah unless u got expedited shipping then monday it is. I know performance wise nike jerseys are better but casual wise they feel like t-shirts

They really do, they feel like slim fit t-shirts.

Like you said performance wise it's probably best, but 99% of the people buying a jersey aren't doing anything but drinking beer in it.

I`d advise anyone getting the Nike joints to buy one size larger than your usual.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

its not really an excuse, we arent a passing team and when we pass its like pulling teeth sometimes...other team has brady and mcdaniels, julio and roddy, and we are not even sure if its johnny morton whos calling passing plays or greg roman

I agree with the basic premise of us getting the ball more to him, but what can you do when hes not open ? especially since we are playing it very safe with our throws...when we go 2 TE sets teams double VD and leave walker open. obviously theyd rather have a guy with 12 catches and 7 drops beat em instead of VD

oh and brady has aaron hernandez as the 2nd TE. imagine us having that guy instead of TD-dropping ass walker, whos yet another great athlete, but a weak pass catcher

Yep this team is not a passing team, that`s bottom line.

It's funny because the whole idea from the media was Kaep was going to bring more air-it-out flash to this team.

To me Kaep is doing the same fukking shyt as Smith (to his Credit, he's managing the game well aside for the Ram game) he's making safe throws, playing smart ball and the run game is still carrying this offense.

I am glad Harbaugh didn't over-haul the whole philosophy for the shiny new toy, you watch the 49ers now and it's the same shyt you saw in 2011 for the most part.

 

[yseJ]

Yep this team is not a passing team, that`s bottom line.

It's funny because the whole idea from the media was Kaep was going to bring more air-it-out flash to this team.

To me Kaep is doing the same fukking shyt as Smith (to his Credit, he's managing the game well aside for the Ram game) he's making safe throws, playing smart ball and the run game is still carrying this offense.

I am glad Harbaugh didn't over-haul the whole philosophy for the shiny new toy, you watch the 49ers now and it's the same shyt you saw in 2011 for the most part.

people need to realize harbaugh and whoever is calling plays will remain conservative. the only time theyll let kaep air it out deep is when theyre behind or if he sees single coverage that he likes and WR is open.

I think if we had someone like drew brees, wed be doing the same exact shyt.