My problem with roguelikes is that they are designed to frustrate you and yoh do the same shyt over and over and over until you get a build thats so op that u can sleewalk thru the shyt. And i feel outside of those two games and maybe hades the genre is a lazy garbage ass thing that allows devs to make uninspired content built around their gameplay. And the rng
Then on higher difficulties its complete nonsense and you have to have a zen like being with the game to beat it. I played DC up to 5 cells and aaid fukk this. Granted thats the hardest part of the game but the fukkery they throw at you isnt fun at that point.
Returnal seemed the fairest of those games and thats probs why I fukked with it