Restaurant tantrum exposes Mexican class divide

[theworldismine13]

Accusation wasnt sideways, you do have a bone to pick with Latinos just like you do with blacks

Secondly whats wrong with @The Real exercising his intellectual freedoms

Yeah, I criticized Latinos for being racist, and?

I don't remember saying there was anything wrong with the real expressing his opinion, I was just pointing out that in his opinion legal immigrants in a jury will reduce racism

 

[The Real]

You obviously have not read any of the immigration threads, the real was just last week writing essays on how allowing legal immigrants to be in a jury will reduce racism

You're simplifying my argument, but regardless, tying it to Latinos specifically is ridiculous in general, and strange in specific considering that they are not the biggest immigrating population anymore. Cite me in the proper context if you're going to do it.

 

[theworldismine13]

The vast majority of black people I've heard from especially on this forum are not favorable to illegal immigration or granting citizenship. Most want obama to help black people the most first and mexicans as well as south americans are just as racist as people from the states. I don't know where get these black people from that think differently but they are probably in the minority.

That's news to me, from what I see most posters take the liberal side on immigration

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You're simplifying my argument, but regardless, tying it to Latinos specifically is ridiculous in general, and strange in specific considering that they are not the biggest immigrating population anymore. Cite me in the proper context if you're going to do it.

I was sure there was more to it than what dude was saying, but @theworldismine13 is a big fan of misunderstanding and making up things people say so

And lol @ Latino racism being an issue, but GOP racism not

 

[The Real]

And lol @ Latino racism being an issue, but GOP racism not

Yeah, that is a very confusing and probably incoherent set of positions in twism's general stance. Somehow, Latinos are completely toxic because "they're just as racist as whites" (ignoring that Latino is an ethnicity which includes many Black people,) but those original whites themselves are totally fine when they're in the more-racist-than-average GOP and not at all an obstacle to "Black domination."

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yeah, that is a very confusing and probably incoherent set of positions in twism's general stance. Somehow, Latinos are completely toxic because "they're just as racist as whites" (ignoring that Latino is an ethnicity which includes many Black people,) but those original whites themselves are totally fine when they're in the more-racist-than-average GOP and not at all an obstacle to "Black domination."

You just detonated a double speak text bomb

Sent from handheld Minority Report console

 

[88m3]

 

[theworldismine13]

You're simplifying my argument, but regardless, tying it to Latinos specifically is ridiculous in general, and strange in specific considering that they are not the biggest immigrating population anymore. Cite me in the proper context if you're going to do it.

im not going to write an essay explaining your position, but your basic argument is that more immigrants means less racism, here is the thread http://www.the-coli.com/higher-lear...nship-requirement-jury-duty.html#.UYgo8EokT68

the context was mexican american lawmakers pushing the law in CA, a state where the major group of immigrants are mexican

and latinos are the biggest immigrants group, where havehave you heard otherwise, it is true that asian immigration in the past couple of years has surpassed latino immigration but that is a very recent phenomena, in terms of actual numbers latinos make up the majority of immigrants

 

[Hulk Hogan]

REMEMBER THESE STORIES THE NEXT TIME A CONSERVATIVE IS TELLING YOU HOW POOR PEOPLE ON WELFARE ARE JUST ACTING ENTITLED, BROTHER!

 

[Brown_Pride]

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This is a very "SLANG" type post...
THis isn't a "mexican" problem, this is a money problem. Need I pull up video of my sweet sixteen or bride zillas. Some people with power and money are fukin morons and entitled little b*stards, that has nothing to do with "mexican". We all know you have a hard on for trying to dis mexicans, as of late your tact has been waning.

 

[theworldismine13]

I was sure there was more to it than what dude was saying, but @theworldismine13 is a big fan of misunderstanding and making up things people say so

And lol @ Latino racism being an issue, but GOP racism not

those are 2 different arguments, if you are saying you are supporting immgration to fight white racism, then im gonna point out the level of racism in the latino community

i never said gop racism was not an issue, i said gop racism is a data point and its possible for a black person to rationalize supporting the GOP

people made the assertion that more immigrants means less racism or that we should unite with latinos, so i bring up the latino racism as a data point

i think what's funny is that you keep on accusing me of being a GOP supporter when ive said 100 times im not, you are the one that supported romney not me

you are the one that said that you supported rand paul's ideas that business had the right to discriminate, not me

but yet you are throwing shots at me as if im a romney supporter that thinks its ok for business to discriminant, when actually that is you

 

[theworldismine13]

Yeah, that is a very confusing and probably incoherent set of positions in twism's general stance. Somehow, Latinos are completely toxic because "they're just as racist as whites" (ignoring that Latino is an ethnicity which includes many Black people,) but those original whites themselves are totally fine when they're in the more-racist-than-average GOP and not at all an obstacle to "Black domination."

latinos are not toxic, illegal immigrants are toxic and amnesty is toxic, and legal immigrants in juries is just stupid

and i never said i supported the GOP

 

[acri1]

I honestly don't think the US is too far from having this type of class divide.

You already have the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorer, and popular sentiment that half the country is composed of lazy leeches who don't work or pay taxes.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

those are 2 different arguments, if you are saying you are supporting immgration to fight white racism, then im gonna point out the level of racism in the latino community

So teaming up with racist white Republicans is a smart way to build black power, but teaming up with Latinos who may or may not be racist against racist whites has to be discussed and examined

i never said gop racism was not an issue, i said gop racism is a data point and its possible for a black person to rationalize supporting the GOP

How is it possible to rationalize lining up with a group for whom your destruction and marginalization is a primary objective

This is like a German Jew rationalizing lining up with the Nazis

people made the assertion that more immigrants means less racism or that we should unite with latinos, so i bring up the latino racism as a data point

Its a data point, but so is our greater strength in lining up w/one of the fastest growing groups in the country

Another data point is the impact and depth of Latino racism vs white racism... as far as I know Latinos are not disenfranchising, profiting from imprisoning, racially profiling or using their power to harm blacks... not to mention we have a common enemy in our shared legacy of second class treatment from the govt

Again coming back to the Nazi analogy... this is like saying the Jews shouldnt have lined up with the gypsies... because one gypsy was anti-Semetic. You are missing the forest for the trees

i think what's funny is that you keep on accusing me of being a GOP supporter when ive said 100 times im not, you are the one that supported romney not me

We have already dissected the hypocrisy & roundabout support you throw for the GOP... you want us to pause and scrutinize the racism of the Democrats, Latinos and anyone blacks have aligned with historically... but you mention the decades of blatant GOP racism in passing as a "mere data point"... still coming to the conclusion that alliances with our current allies = bad, and an alliance with the GOP = "a path we should strongly consider in our path to black domination"

you are the one that said that you supported rand paul's ideas that business had the right to discriminate, not me

You seem to have a knack for taking things out of context... not even going to explain why this is not what I said

but yet you are throwing shots at me as if im a romney supporter that thinks its ok for business to discriminant, when actually that is you

Can you tell me where I said you were a Romney supporter?

I still think Romney has a more objective economic and fiscal mind than Obama and was under the impression that our debt problem would be our undoing... evidence has come to show that is not the case, and I have since retracted those statements. For the record I voted for Gary Johnson... who did you vote for?

This is why nobody takes you seriously... I spent more time correcting your inaccuracies than actually building with you. You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

 

[The Real]

im not going to write an essay explaining your position, but your basic argument is that more immigrants means less racism, here is the thread http://www.the-coli.com/higher-lear...nship-requirement-jury-duty.html#.UYgo8EokT68

My point was not that more immigrants automatically means less racism. My quotes are all there to be read.

the context was mexican american lawmakers pushing the law in CA, a state where the major group of immigrants are mexican

And I was arguing for the measure in general, which means irrespective of the location and the particular immigrant demographics of California.

and latinos are the biggest immigrants group, where havehave you heard otherwise, it is true that asian immigration in the past couple of years has surpassed latino immigration but that is a very recent phenomena, in terms of actual numbers latinos make up the majority of immigrants

Yes, that is true, but the thing about Latinos making up the majority is not true. They are the biggest group, though not by very much (only a few thousand ahead of Asians,) but the majority of immigrants are not Latino. But even here, we see your vagueness at work. When you break down the category "Latino," there is nuance to be found. Besides Mexico, the Dominican Republic is the only other Latino nation in the top 5 immigrating nationalities, and the vast majority of Dominicans are Black. These are the kinds of things your position is too simple to deal with.

latinos are not toxic, illegal immigrants are toxic and amnesty is toxic, and legal immigrants in juries is just stupid

and i never said i supported the GOP

You claim that, but every time anyone discusses coalitions between Blacks and Latinos, or resonances between them, you pop up like Oscar the grouch out of his garbage can to talk about Latino racism. Let's be real- you're not interested in context or nuance in this debate. You default to a generalized anti-Latino position pretty much every time they're brought up (and do the same with other non-white groups, too,) not just in the case of illegal immigration. And on top of that, you also create threads about Latino racism unprompted- it's pretty clear where you stand.

As for the GOP, you support collaborating with them and Black people joining them. There's no effective distinction between that and supporting them.