Republicans Try to Cut Food Stamps as 15% of U.S. Households Face Hunger

[#1 pick]

More whites receive welfare than blacks

Don't believe the hype.

Which is obvious as well as them getting 67% of the benefits while Blacks who make up 25% of a food stamps only get 14% of the benefits. If food stamps funded got cut, those Whites would get 2/3 of what they are getting now which is a call of outrage in the poor but Blacks would be the biggest losers as they only get 14%, they would be getting around 3-4%. That would starve many who do not have access to a sound education and any means to better themselves.

The issue is massive. The message is clear from the GOP. We are willing to seriously hurt our poor whites to whip out Blacks. Because once you can corner one, you can always put the blame on the c00ns and corp guys can get rid of them as well. The biggest issue with the push for individualism with Blacks is when they come, it will be in a group, while we are individuals.

and honestly I wish the system did more to distinguish those who abuse the system from those who want to get off of it.

Most people aren't on food stamps because they want to be on it. There is a limited amount of good jobs and the ones available, they clearly aren't resume qualified for. In other words, this was there only option to feed their family. Sometimes, you have to look at things completely, not centered. My issue with you is you are taking this from a race perception and not people perceptive when you need to look at both if you are really Black which I doubt.

Food Stamps are needed especially in this society. Maybe not so in the 1910's but in 2013, there are.

 

[#1 pick]

The government you are placing your faith in, and granting more power, is the main reason for the economic disparity you are upset about.



Its impossible to open niqqas eyes to how the government is screwing them, when the government keeps offering them free shyt.

You sound loony. You really think people who don't have jobs or have jobs but can't get a decent waged job are putting all their faith in the gov't in crazy talk. Listen to your speak. You do realize those who work and getting food stamps are also getting taxed as well. You can't reason with a c00n or cac. I will your types would die. So far gone with zero compassion for the next man. What's your logic when people come to kill Blacks and blame them for their problems when their problems have zero to do with Blacks. If anything, the fact they can't live off of the backs of Blacks is their biggest complaint.

 

[NZA]

It also led to those same people being able to vote...

no, the civil rights movement lead to voting, and the federal government was needed to subvert state's rights so they couldnt so easily subvert our ability to vote (even less libertarianism)

 

[DEAD7]

Which is obvious as well as them getting 67% of the benefits while Blacks who make up 25% of a food stamps only get 14% of the benefits. If food stamps funded got cut, those Whites would get 2/3 of what they are getting now which is a call of outrage in the poor but Blacks would be the biggest losers as they only get 14%, they would be getting around 3-4%. That would starve many who do not have access to a sound education and any means to better themselves.

The issue is massive. The message is clear from the GOP. We are willing to seriously hurt our poor whites to whip out Blacks. Because once you can corner one, you can always put the blame on the c00ns and corp guys can get rid of them as well. The biggest issue with a lack of individualism with Blacks is when they come, it will be in a group, while you are a individual.



Most people aren't on food stamps because they want to be on it. There is a limited amount of good jobs and the ones available, they clearly aren't resume qualified for. In other words, this was there only option to feed their family. Sometimes, you have to look at things completely, not centered. My issue with you is you are taking this from a race perception and not people perceptive when you need to look at both if you are really Black which I doubt.

Food Stamps are needed especially in this society. Maybe not so in the 1910's but in 2013, there are.

I don't think you guys realize how much we spend on these entitlements, and how much of that money we don't have... whether you think we should be spending it on them or not, we simply don't have it... I don't know why this is so hard to grasp...

That said, lets touch on a few things u said.

"That would starve many who do not have access to a sound education and any means to better themselves."
^Simply not true. There has NEVER been a time in this country when nothing was being done to offset the undeserved misfortunes of people.

"My issue with you is you are taking this from a race perception and not people perceptive"
I haven't brought up race at all? Unless it was in response to a racial post. I probably underestimate how much of a factor racism plays in these policies, and you probably overestimate it. :many:

"There is a limited amount of good jobs and the ones available, they clearly aren't resume qualified for."
The entry level jobs that used to exist for people to get the skills needed to advance have been gobbled up by minimum wage laws. Employers can no longer afford to higher and train low wage employees.


The dependency on government push by Democrats has been more harmful than anything the Republicans have done, and has contributed to the breakdown of the black nuclear family.

 

[DEAD7]

You sound loony. You really think people who don't have jobs or have jobs but can't get a decent waged job are putting all their faith in the gov't in crazy talk. Listen to your speak. You do realize those who work and getting food stamps are also getting taxed as well. You can't reason with a c00n or cac. I will your types would die. So far gone with zero compassion for the next man. What's your logic when people come to kill Blacks and blame them for their problems when their problems have zero to do with Blacks. If anything, the fact they can't live off of the backs of Blacks is their biggest complaint.

You call forcibly taking hard earned money from one man and distributing it to wherever you deem fit compassion?

 

[DEAD7]

no, the civil rights movement lead to voting, and the federal government was needed to subvert state's rights so they couldnt so easily subvert our ability to vote (even less libertarianism)

It was the constitution and the legal framework established by it that allowed the movements to work. Every civil rights case was won in court, in the system, backed by the constitution(which was/is far from perfect). It was also used to argue for freeing slaves.
Racist Justices on the supreme court are the reason for all the f*cked rulings prior. Not the document itself.



That's not the point tho, the constitution set an amazing precedence for man, and for freedom in general.



Focusing solely on its flaws I can see how one would arrive where you are.

 

[DEAD7]

Food Stamps are needed especially in this society. Maybe not so in the 1910's but in 2013, there are.

This belief right here frightens me...

Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money to spend, and with the number of people signing up for welfare increasing and the job market shrinking, that day will be here sooner than later.

When you subsidize something you get more of it. We need to stop subsidizing bad decisions and complacency.

 

[#1 pick]

This belief right here frightens me...

Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money to spend, and with the number of people signing up for welfare increasing and the job market shrinking, that day will be here sooner than later.

When you subsidize something you get more of it. We need to stop subsidizing bad decisions and complacency.

Huh? You are so far gone. Did you comprehend anything said today?

 

[DEAD7]

Huh? You are so far gone. Did you comprehend anything said today?

I did, you see welfare as necessary, I see it as unnecessary...


I think it does more harm to blacks than good, you think we need it, and its racist to want it gone...

You focus on those who want to get off welfare, I focus on those abusing it and robbing those of us that contribute to society.



Just different perspectives Which I prefer to everyone sheeping behind the same idea.

"When you subsidize something you get more of it. We need to stop subsidizing bad decisions and complacency." <--- sums up my position on it socially/politically. Morally I see nothing compassionate or just about initiating force against some one(who has done no wrong) to create results you think are "fair".

 

[#1 pick]

I did, you see welfare as necessary, I see it as unnecessary...


I think it does more harm to blacks than good, you think we need it, and its racist to want it gone...

You focus on those who want to get off welfare, I focus on those abusing it and robbing those of us that contribute to society.



Just different perspectives Which I prefer to everyone sheeping behind the same idea.

"When you subsidize something you get more of it. We need to stop subsidizing bad decisions and complacency." <--- sums up my position on it socially/politically. Morally I see nothing compassionate or just about initiating force against some one(who has done no wrong) to create results you think are "fair".

Food Stamps is a part of welfare, it's not welfare in it's entirety.

I think getting complete welfare does do more harm than good since those who get it tend to live off of the gov't, can't have their man in the house and it's destuctive for white and black people but moreso for Blacks as Whites can get full welfare and being a couple. But food stamps and WIC are necessary and one of the things the gov't did right.
Once again, I think you are looking at this from a race standpoint to counter the guilt from Whites who hate you and will blame you for everything regardless because most of them are under satanic rule and Blacks are starting to sadly join them in some circles.

I don't think our perspectives are that different, it's just the way we are looking at it. If you knew exactly what food stamps gives, you wouldn't be doubting it. But I do agree about everything being off of the gov't being an issue for the long term. Section 8 is a monster. Whites will never complain about that because it is destructive but will complain about the one really good aid that is helpful to most who use it.

 

[NZA]

It was the constitution and the legal framework established by it that allowed the movements to work. Every civil rights case was won in court, in the system, backed by the constitution(which was/is far from perfect). It was also used to argue for freeing slaves.
Racist Justices on the supreme court are the reason for all the f*cked rulings prior. Not the document itself.



That's not the point tho, the constitution set an amazing precedence for man, and for freedom in general.



Focusing solely on its flaws I can see how one would arrive where you are.

no, the constitution explicitly makes differences between people (natives, slaves, free, etc.) the amendments brought on by leaders of social change are why we have what we have today.

it may look like i am focusing solely on its flaws when all you do is skim for favorable things. i am conscious of how this country started and what it took for white people to succeed. that is why i view extreme libertarianism and faith in the market as hocus pocus, because it was never instrumental in this nation's success. sorry, breh.

and we havent even addressed the treatment of women...

 

[Shogun]

 

[Matt504]

while you argue in favor of food stamps benefits being cut..

how many of you are upset about the missing 9 trillion dollars from the federal reserve...

how many of you even knew about it?

 

[Odyssey]

Non-empathetic altruism has kept poor people in chains for years. Do you honestly think people like @88m3 give a shyt about poor communities? I am sure it is the first thing on his mind as he drinks craft lager and sleeps with impressionable white girls. No, but if he can appear to care about poor people, and not look like the evil, old white men that run the republican party, this gives his ego a moral high ground "well, at least i don't want to cut food stamps like those evil white men" And then Liberals go about their day feeling morally superior. Of course, we see the affects of this attitude in real time, where is the black community now, after fifty years of non-empathetic altruism? Where are the poor white communities after years of non-empathetic altruism? Anyone with a set of eyes should be able to tell you the answer. Increase the level of productive empathetic charity and things will change.

 

[Uncle Kingpin]

SNAP is only a small portion of the farm bill. Most of the money goes to subsidizing farms, which artificially makes our food cheap for export. Republicans make no mention of cutting millionaire farmers and mega corporations off.

If there were no food stamps, the cost of food would rise sharply, and many supermarkets would close. Walmart would have to go back to having only a few isles of snacks, canned goods and soda. In most urban areas this would cause corner stores and low-end stores to close, leaving only Whole Foods and Trader Joe's. The profit margin in food is razor thin due to spoilage and waste so most fresh produce sections would be eliminated.

Poor people dont want food stamps, they want jobs and a living wage. The fact that so many people have to turn to public assistance is only an effect, a symptom of a greater problem. The real problem is that the American people are subsidizing corporate wealth through easy money policies and free trade.