That’s been his position to lose for years now and everyone knows it. This situation isn’t going to change that.You sure about this?
Republican Civil War Watch UPDATE 1/7/23: Repub McCarthy wins control of Speaker of the House (Lost 14x prior)
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Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
What's going on is Jefferies gonna be speaker of the house even though the Dems are in the minority.
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
In a roundabout way, sure. Cause with all the compromises that McCarthy has made, if he's picked, he will be a toothless tiger, a figurehead.
Wait so the Dems I assumed voted for Jefferies so what's the Republican problems.
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
A 6th vote? 
This is EMBARRASSING, dear God.
This is EMBARRASSING, dear God.
you need an outright majority to be speaker. jeffries just has a plurality because dems are in the minority
he really trying to filibuster himself into being elected.A 6th vote?
This is EMBARRASSING, dear God.
after this they gonna have to write a new law preventing something like this from ever happening again.
They were voted in because they’d do shyt like this .This is exactly what their constituents want . I may not agree with it but actually standing on what you believe in (as long as it ain’t some wild racist/goofy type shyt) is more respectable than just going with the flow because that’s what everyone expects of you .
Just tossing McCarthy up there makes him one of the most powerful people in DC AND may set him up for a presidential run. If I don’t fukk with that man I’m not putting him in the drivers seat
fukk outta here. Even if they gave him the votes in the first run, McCarthy will never be able to put together a presidential run. This is his absolute ceiling. He rushed out to to dikkeat Trump because even he knows this is as far as he can take it.
If they were actually standing on what they believed in, they'd take the concessions McCarthy has been offering, and then hold their votes over his head for the rest of the term, and make him their puppet, which he seems completely willing to do.
At this point, it seems less like they're trying to keep him out, and more like they just want weaken the position of Speaker going forward.
I’ll be pissed just sitting there 10 hours knowing this nikka will not get the votes
Just withdraw and move on nikka
I’m talking about Jeffries.You talking about McCarthy?
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
Yes all the dems voted for Jeffries but the Dems are in the minority so he will be minority leader. The Republicans have the majority so they're supposed to pick the majority house speaker. But he needs 218 votes to win. He can't get them because there are 20 Republicans who are refusing to vote for him (they're currently doing it a 6th time). Without those 20 Republicans, he cannot cross the threshold, no speaker can be chosen, which means that the next session of congress can't start. Many people who were elected into office are still congressmen and women elect, due to there not being a speaker to swear them in.
The dems voting in unison for Jeffries each time is important. If any of the democrats break rank or leave, then that means that the number required for McCarthy to win will decrease. So let's say 2 democrats decide they had enough and they head out of the chamber. Then the number that McCarthy needs to win goes from 218 to 216.
So therefore the democrats remaining in the chamber and voting for Jeffries each time without breaking rank keeps the pressure on Republicans.
If McCarthy can't convince these 20 holdouts (which he can't cause he has met every last single one of their ridiculous demands and they still keep voting against him) then he has 2 options.
Go hat in hand to the democrats and make some concessions to get some of them to vote for him...
or...
Get some of his members to vote "present" instead of voting for a person. But that will be tricky cause if too many vote present, then the number required to win would decrease thereby giving Jeffries a chance to become speaker.
It's a crazy conundrum that MAGAset is in
I know this Karen didn't just say that voters didn't send them to be perpetual critics immediately after spending the first 30 seconds of her nomination speech for McCarthy complaining about Biden.
I muted it because I knew I didn't want to hear this fat bich talkingI know this Karen didn't just say that voters didn't send them to be perpetual critics immediately after spending the first 30 seconds of her nomination speech for McCarthy complaining about Biden.
