Republican Civil War Watch UPDATE 1/7/23: Repub McCarthy wins control of Speaker of the House (Lost 14x prior)

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Clown shyt. He should have stepped aside. Oh well. Enjoy the title. It's the only good thing about your win. Because he is not about to enjoy the job.
He’s going to get paid handsomely for doing the bidding of lobbyist behind the scenes, so I’m sure he doesn’t mind at all. A lot of people tend to forget that these politicians pull these type of moves because of the money that comes along with it.

How else do you think those votes eventually ended up getting changed?
 

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Hot takes from coli brehs who know nothing about politics yet again.

Right now the entire reason the GOP is in their current situation is because the Democrats are standing as a united block and refusing to budge. They are all voting in unison for Hakeem Jeffries. If the democrats were not united right now, McCarthy would have become speaker yesterday.

It's the Republicans who don't understand the power of leverage. Democrats are holding out until they get what they want. And right now they are making a play for joint control of the house.

And if any democrat breaks rank, McCarthy would win. But they are all refusing to budge.

You ain't have to go at breh like that at the beginning, but you are correct that the Democrats are taking advantage of the situation by just voting for their guy every time.

It's becoming increasingly clear that McCarthy doesn't stand a chance of winning, because there's no deal he can cut that gets him the win. Jordan, at least thus far, seems to be legit I'm not wanting the speaker position, so his nomination exists only to shuffle votes around between two losing candidates. Someone over there with the GOP needs to be the adult in the room, and point out how fukking they look to have spent years talking about how effective they'll be when they get control of the house back, only to waste a solid portion of their first week with the majority bickering with each other.

You're right, I didn't have to go at him that hard. It's just a little sickening to me when people have all this criticism of Democrats (who deserve to be criticized, don't get me wrong) while lauding Republicans. We could see Republicans shooting their constituents in the head literally, and some coli breh will still come in saying, "At least Republicans were in front of their constituents, where are the democrats?"

It's disingenuous and ignorant.

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Clown shyt. He should have stepped aside. Oh well. Enjoy the title. It's the only good thing about your win. Because he is not about to enjoy the job.
He's dealing with people that he and his party enabled, who want to do nothing but run on, "owning da libs!" He had 201 (+1 because she called present only because he didn't have the votes yet) votes. I don't fukking like the guy either, but he holds the bigger number. There's no reason to step down. Even Hannity's dumbass asked Boebert what the fukk was she fighting it for? The answer is nothing. Republicans don't want to work or govern. We're going to witness a complete waste of time on investigations and them holding the debt hostage for some dumbass kick back.

Democrats for once seem to be playing it smart and letting the world see the madness they had to deal with. They played it quite well, didn't argue and just laughed at them. C-Span being normalized does more good than bad because you can witness firsthand how little Republicans want to work. Still, I think they do need to go to these dumbass old Faux News-watching cacs and tell them, "They' want to take money from YOUR social security to pay themselves!" Repeat the message.
 
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Republican Adam Kinzinger says he's politically "homeless," and if Trump is the nominee, he'll vote for Biden — The Takeout



BY MAJOR GARRETT
DECEMBER 8, 2023 / 6:00 AM EST / CBS NEWS



Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger describes himself as politically "homeless," at odds with a party he views as "anti-constitutionalist." He believes former President Donald Trump will be the 2024 Republican nominee — and if that's the case, Kinzinger intends to vote for President Biden.

Kinzinger was one of two Republicans to serve on the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riot that sought to derail congressional certification of Biden's victory.

The other Republican on the committee was Liz Cheney, who says she's considering a third party bid for the White House, although she told CBS "Mornings" Thursday, "I won't do anything that would help him," she said, when asked about possibly running as a third-party candidate.

Kinzinger shares that concern. "If a run as an independent for Liz Cheney damages Donald Trump, then I think it's smart. Go for it, right?" Kinzinger said. "The only concern I have, and this is with any third-party attempt is, you know, are you going to just take away from Joe Biden?...Donald Trump is the big threat to the country in 2024."

Kinzinger, author of the new book "Renegade," appeared on this week's episode of "The Takeout" with CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett.

Asked about Trump's sizable polling lead in the race for GOP nominee, Kinzinger said, "If I was betting Vegas odds right now, I would put all my money [that] Donald Trump will be the nominee."

But Kinzinger said the federal charges Trump faces related to his alleged role in trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election could upend the nominating contest. He noted that Trump's last chief of staff, Mark Meadows, could play a big part in Trump's Jan. 6-related trials.

"Mark Meadows…who barely cooperated with the January 6th Committee, was actually our most valuable player," Kinzinger said. "The little bit he provided to us is the thing that set out the whole roadmap for all of January 6th and all the involvement of Trump. Now he's cooperating. So there could be a lot more information that we don't know."

Meadows testified before a grand jury in special counsel Jack Smith's investigation. However, a source familiar with the case denied that Meadows reached an immunity deal with Smith.

This week, Smith's prosecution team filed a court document indicating it has developed information about Trump-led efforts to possibly obstruct vote counting efforts in Detroit in 2020. The prosecutors also cited comments from Trump wrongly alleging vote-flipping had taken place there as far back as 2012 – an indication Trump was deliberately sowing unsubstantiated doubts about election outcomes long before he lost to President Biden.

Kinzinger said if the choice comes down to Biden or Trump in 2024, the answer is easy – it's Biden.

"I don't even have to hesitate. Do I agree with everything Joe Biden's doing? No, of course not. He's a Democrat. I'm an old-school Republican, I'll say. But I believe he's a good man, and I believe he's focused on the Constitution. I believe he's not looking for reasons to violate the Constitution like Donald Trump is. I wouldn't hesitate at all," he said.

Kinzinger also rejected Trump's recent assertion that President Biden poses a grave threat to democracy.

"Anything that he puts on other people is usually what he himself is. I think he recognizes it. He tries to muddy the water by claiming that Joe Biden is the same thing. Well, there's no comparison in terms of who's a bigger threat to democracy."

Kinzinger said he still considers himself a Republican – but only at the margins.

"The only reason I'm not giving up the title is I refuse to let the anti-constitutionalist side win," Kinzinger said. "Every democracy in my mind needs a liberal or a progressive movement and a conservative movement because that tug and pull – that push and pull - is what actually makes a country advance at the right speed – not always perfectly. I'll continue to fight for the GOP but that doesn't mean I'm voting GOP. I'm not because they're an anti-constitutionalist party at the moment."

As for George Santos, the New York congressman expelled from the House last week, Kinzinger had to suppress a laugh.

"I'm glad Santos is out, obviously. I mean this kind of tongue in cheek, but at least try to launder the money that you're stealing. You know, George Santos just basically took a donor's check and then directly deposited it into his bank account. Like make an effort at least. He was so obviously corrupt that it was incredible. So, yeah, he deserved to go," Kinzinger said.

Arden Farhi contributed reporting.

Executive producer: Arden Farhi

Producers: Jamie Benson, Jacob Rosen, Sara Cook and Eleanor Watson
 

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Marjorie Taylor Greene holds her phone with Trump on the line, as Rep. Matt Rosendale waves it off​

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