Reports: President of Haiti Assassinated at Home

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With former PM Lauren Lamothe

Goofy ass nikka you didn’t even know Laurent Lamothe ....you admit that in the one of the Haiti thread. Also Lamothe was part of the group that stole the petro caribe with sweet Mickey


:mjlol:Also Lamothe is the leader of Bourgeoisie class in Haiti goofy. Man y’all fake zoe don’t know shyt about Haiti
 

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Good take from Black Authority.

Meaning no disrespect, what would a solo show by a youtuber add to the discussion?

Did he speak to anybody who works in state/diplomacy depts. from any of the countries involved in the current story? Did he speak to any journalists who cover politics in any of the countries involved? Did he even have anybody from the Haitian diaspora as a call in guest?

If not, what exactly did he break down? These YTers really don't know what they're talking about half the time, much less when they are speaking about international news.
An uninformed guy rambling for hours by himself isn't breaking down anything.
 

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Meaning no disrespect, what would a solo show by a youtuber add to the discussion?

Did he speak to anybody who works in state/diplomacy depts. from any of the countries involved in the current story? Did he speak to any journalists who cover politics in any of the countries involved? Did he even have anybody from the Haitian diaspora as a call in guest?

If not, what exactly did he break down? These YTers really don't know what they're talking about half the time, much less when they are speaking about international news.
An uninformed guy rambling for hours by himself isn't breaking down anything.
You post some YT videos as well from uniformed guys rambling and lying( with known Haitian criminals). You don’t even known anything about the Political structure about Haiti fuk out here
 

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"Thank you to everyone who is helping me pray for me to regain life.
Because all the time you are in the hospital your life is in the hands of God and doctors.
I, Martine Moïse, still do not believe that my husband has gone like that before my eyes without saying a last word, this pain will never pass."


 
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Apparently Dmitri Herard head of the presidential guard is under custody. And the Haitian police are looking for a former Senator who was against Jovnel Moise is wanted. A drug trafficking businessman, former partner of Guy Philippe who led the insurrection in 2004, and a former police superintendent are all wanted as well for planning the assassination.
 

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"Thank you to everyone who is helping me pray for me to regain life.
Because all the time you are in the hospital your life in the hands of God and doctors.
I, Martine Moïse, still do not believe that my husband has gone like that before my eyes without saying a last word, this pain will never pass."



:francis:They ain’t have to throw that picture out there. Got our First Lady looking dazed.
 

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"Thank you to everyone who is helping me pray for me to regain life.
Because all the time you are in the hospital your life in the hands of God and doctors.
I, Martine Moïse, still do not believe that my husband has gone like that before my eyes without saying a last word, this pain will never pass."



Glad she's doing well, all things considered.


*Clear and accurate translation. Word for word.
One of my pet peeves is when people do half translation/half synonyms
 

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I saw the following post on LSA let me know what yall think

After all these revelations about these guys being DEA informants + with Dimitri Herard's frequent trips to Colombia + the CIA holding a special meeting there 7 days before Jovenel's murder, , anyone who still believes that the US isn't neck deep involved in this, I have a bridge built on moving sand to sell you.

Anyway I was listening to this really informative timeline about this and I'll give you the resume: a Haitian scholar with his own show (will link video upon request) said that the US ambassador to Haiti's residence is something like 5 minutes away from the president's home and that the mercenaries showed up and started the show at 10PM. It was noisy as hell and the whole neighborhood was hearing the fireworks because megaphone, bullets, makeshift bombs and all. President died at 1 AM. Which means that between 10 PM and 1 AM, literally no one came to his rescue despite the fireworks that everyone could hear in the neighborhood. Not security, not police, nothing, his own guards standing down so easily and the mercenaries with DEA gear seemingly knowing their way around the home. The US ambassador in Haiti knows everything that happens in the country. If a pin drops, he knows it. He lived was just 5 minutes away.. He made no phone calls to sound the alarm. It had to be because the US wanted to let it play out.

Most credible motive: Also he was saying that this was about Jovenel's complete lack of popularity making him a dead weight for the US. Gvt sponsored gangs to keep him in power, elite sponsored gangs for business reasons to take on rivals and it created a situation where gangs became too powerful and Jovenel had no control over the situation and he was deeply unpopular. The Americans just didn't know what to do with him and then to top it off, he got to authoritarian and wouldn't leave past February and then insisted on the referendum even when the US veered course on that. It was a bad look for them. Jovenel wanted elections as a way to ensure PHTK continuity by making sure a PHTK leader made it through the next elections so that Martelly him and other Phtk criminals would never be held liable for Petrocaribe and other crimes during him and Martelly's tenure (will get back to that later). Only the US found itself in a difficult position with him because they knew that his deep unpopularity would make it so that the elections would have zero air of legitimacy (even though US-rigged elections never do, they still wanted a minimum of veneer to dress it up) and it's important to the US to keep this masquerade of ''democracy through elections'' no matter how ridiculously flawed and rigged the election process is.

Then he veered into how Jovenel had always been extremely generous with the oligarchs, granting them favors and land all over the place but that at one point he ran into some business conflict with them and that's when he came out to made a public declaration about the 11 families that own everything in Haiti to taunt them. The oligarch families couldn't let that stand, so they sought Washington's approval first (because a move like this must be approved first) to get rid of him. Eliminating him in such a flashy manner sent a message to future leaders that those are the consequences if you defy him in the slightest. In conclusion, he's clear that Jovenel's term ended in February (we all knew that), that he played ball with the US and the oligarch throughout most of his admin, that he didn't control anything, that he was greatly disliked, that he had a lot of enemies and that somewhere down the line, there was eventually friction with oligarchs over business.

Back to Martelly: he touched on the fact that there was a rift between Martelly and Lamothe. Martelly mentored Jovenel for the presidency because he wanted to follow Jovenel's term with a 2nd term of his own to circumvent Haitian law. This is what they arranged. But then Jovenel passed some type of decree that allowed former Prime Ministers to become candidates in the next election, which naturally would mean that Lamothe would be allowed to present his candidacy. Martelly was absolutely furious about that, didn't want to compete with Lamothe (that one is kind of iffy because no one in their right mind would vote for Lamothe anyway and it would be too obvious for the US to try and force that crook through rigged elections). The channel advances this as a possible internal motive for this assassination but seems to ultimately prefer the theory of a plot hatched between the Oligarchs and the US, with some local facilitators

PS: Oh and the presenter on the timeline (he's a scholar who's well connected) also said that Jovenel Moïse called a friend of his at one point to let him know that he felt he was in real danger. He didn't reveal the name of that person though. He also said there's speculation that the mercs might have tried to force Jovenel to sign a paper to renounce the presidency and perhaps go into exile (just like they did with Aristide) and that he refused, that the original goal was likely to force him to leave, not to kill him. But when he refused, they murked him.

Haiti is a de facto US colony, folks . With all the most dire consequences of being a colony and none of the ''props'', since it's unofficial. They cancelled the country's sovereignty and now they do has they please to the point of brazenly coming in and killing a president in his home, in a land that is not theirs. And these PHTK low life puppets are already fighting amongst each other to be the first to kiss the ring...
 

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Second part of the post

1) The US was furious when Jovenel decided to accreditate Russia for an embassy on US soil. They had a consulate but no embassy. In accordance to their Monroe Doctrine, the US views the entire Americas as its own backyard. It cannot tolerate any other power implanting itself on ''their backyard'' in any way shape or form (but we knew this already, hence Cuba remaining a thorn of their side for so long)

2) Late in the game, after Jovenel showered these oligarch families with countless gifts of land and business advantages and what not (basically accomplishing what he was placed there to do by these families and the US), he started defying them a little bit as I explained in the previous post. When he was in Turkey at the height of insecurity and madness in Haiti last month, he was meeting in secret with business people trying to solidify some type of electricity deal. The Oligarchs will not tolerate any disruption of their absolute control. Before 2004, they negotiated and influenced their advantages with the gvt. Now they want it ALL. No negotiation. It's an all-you-can-eat-buffet and you'd better not dare defy them in any way.

3) Jovenel's presidential guard were basically Martelly's people from the beginning. Remember that Martelly was Jovenel's mentor. And then a rift started to occur between Jovenel and martelly. Draw your own conclusions. Note that Jovenel was always meant to represent the continuity of the policy of ''doublure'' that the elite uses to try and give their political puppets a semblance of an air of legitimacy with the people.

4) The ''mercenaries'' that the Haitian gvt claims they caught are just the decoys. The real perps are long gone. In such operations, there are 2 teams: The ones who execute the deed and who are very well prepared with a plan of execution and an exit plan, and the decoy team. The decoy team were people who were already in the employ of Moïse to provide him with security. They might not even know they were meant to be the decoy to start with because they arrived after the president was assassinated. This whole thing was planned very carefully by the US and the oligarchs.

4) Jovenel was indeed a corrupted man and diligently executed his local and foreign handlers' wishes for the better part of his presidency. He also used gangs to keep power, just like these dirty businessmen used gangs to protect their interests. But towards the end, he started to rebel a bit but he was naive in his execution of it. You can't borrow from Satan and expect to not have to pay Satan back every cent. And then have a rift with Martelly yet keep his apparatus around you to protect you. He had zero legitimacy with the population and therefore did not have any kind of base to back him up when he veered.

.I'm sure there's much more to say about what was said but it was quite long, intense and shocking to me. Again, it's all in French (and I know that most fonts on here are Haitian-American which is why I'm providing English language cliffs and why I don't link it. If you understand French and are a Haitian font, PM me. )

Now I don't know what to think about these revelations, tbh. If accurate, I have to be honest and say that his take somewhat disrupted my line of thinking about Moïse a little bit. According to this version, he's still a corrupted man, a thief and a money launderer like I've always figured him to be but he also did try to make a move against the internal powers that be in the end, albeit too little too late. (I've been following this man's timeline for a while and I don't remember him mentioning that last part, so it kind of took me by surprise. He expounded quite a bit on his take though, more than I can fit in here and I must say that there's food for thought here)

Let me know what you think about all this

Biden...smh :francis:
 

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I saw the following post on LSA let me know what yall think

After all these revelations about these guys being DEA informants + with Dimitri Herard's frequent trips to Colombia + the CIA holding a special meeting there 7 days before Jovenel's murder, , anyone who still believes that the US isn't neck deep involved in this, I have a bridge built on moving sand to sell you.

Anyway I was listening to this really informative timeline about this and I'll give you the resume: a Haitian scholar with his own show (will link video upon request) said that the US ambassador to Haiti's residence is something like 5 minutes away from the president's home and that the mercenaries showed up and started the show at 10PM. It was noisy as hell and the whole neighborhood was hearing the fireworks because megaphone, bullets, makeshift bombs and all. President died at 1 AM. Which means that between 10 PM and 1 AM, literally no one came to his rescue despite the fireworks that everyone could hear in the neighborhood. Not security, not police, nothing, his own guards standing down so easily and the mercenaries with DEA gear seemingly knowing their way around the home. The US ambassador in Haiti knows everything that happens in the country. If a pin drops, he knows it. He lived was just 5 minutes away.. He made no phone calls to sound the alarm. It had to be because the US wanted to let it play out.

Most credible motive: Also he was saying that this was about Jovenel's complete lack of popularity making him a dead weight for the US. Gvt sponsored gangs to keep him in power, elite sponsored gangs for business reasons to take on rivals and it created a situation where gangs became too powerful and Jovenel had no control over the situation and he was deeply unpopular. The Americans just didn't know what to do with him and then to top it off, he got to authoritarian and wouldn't leave past February and then insisted on the referendum even when the US veered course on that. It was a bad look for them. Jovenel wanted elections as a way to ensure PHTK continuity by making sure a PHTK leader made it through the next elections so that Martelly him and other Phtk criminals would never be held liable for Petrocaribe and other crimes during him and Martelly's tenure (will get back to that later). Only the US found itself in a difficult position with him because they knew that his deep unpopularity would make it so that the elections would have zero air of legitimacy (even though US-rigged elections never do, they still wanted a minimum of veneer to dress it up) and it's important to the US to keep this masquerade of ''democracy through elections'' no matter how ridiculously flawed and rigged the election process is.

Then he veered into how Jovenel had always been extremely generous with the oligarchs, granting them favors and land all over the place but that at one point he ran into some business conflict with them and that's when he came out to made a public declaration about the 11 families that own everything in Haiti to taunt them. The oligarch families couldn't let that stand, so they sought Washington's approval first (because a move like this must be approved first) to get rid of him. Eliminating him in such a flashy manner sent a message to future leaders that those are the consequences if you defy him in the slightest. In conclusion, he's clear that Jovenel's term ended in February (we all knew that), that he played ball with the US and the oligarch throughout most of his admin, that he didn't control anything, that he was greatly disliked, that he had a lot of enemies and that somewhere down the line, there was eventually friction with oligarchs over business.

Back to Martelly: he touched on the fact that there was a rift between Martelly and Lamothe. Martelly mentored Jovenel for the presidency because he wanted to follow Jovenel's term with a 2nd term of his own to circumvent Haitian law. This is what they arranged. But then Jovenel passed some type of decree that allowed former Prime Ministers to become candidates in the next election, which naturally would mean that Lamothe would be allowed to present his candidacy. Martelly was absolutely furious about that, didn't want to compete with Lamothe (that one is kind of iffy because no one in their right mind would vote for Lamothe anyway and it would be too obvious for the US to try and force that crook through rigged elections). The channel advances this as a possible internal motive for this assassination but seems to ultimately prefer the theory of a plot hatched between the Oligarchs and the US, with some local facilitators

PS: Oh and the presenter on the timeline (he's a scholar who's well connected) also said that Jovenel Moïse called a friend of his at one point to let him know that he felt he was in real danger. He didn't reveal the name of that person though. He also said there's speculation that the mercs might have tried to force Jovenel to sign a paper to renounce the presidency and perhaps go into exile (just like they did with Aristide) and that he refused, that the original goal was likely to force him to leave, not to kill him. But when he refused, they murked him.

Haiti is a de facto US colony, folks . With all the most dire consequences of being a colony and none of the ''props'', since it's unofficial. They cancelled the country's sovereignty and now they do has they please to the point of brazenly coming in and killing a president in his home, in a land that is not theirs. And these PHTK low life puppets are already fighting amongst each other to be the first to kiss the ring...
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