Report: Vince & HHH agree on plans for WM31

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The belt should have never been placed on Lesnar. They should have used him just as they used Taker and brought him out just a little more than once a year. Dude could have been a beast regardless and just put the beats on people from time to time because he was bored. Brock vs whoever doesn't need the belt because he sells tickets regardless. Right now they have to have a younger talent beat him because Rock doing it don't mean because he's another part time talent.
 

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Seeing Rock come back those 2-3 years were great but now we've been showered with legend returns in and out of the ring :manny: Push the young guys even if they aren't at the point where they're 100% ready.


I think this is kind of the problem with wrestling today. It just seems like cats age "veteran" guys too quickly and want "younger" guys too quick.

It seems back in the so called golden days of wrestling, most main eventers were older cats that paid dues very rarely were the majority of then like young cats.

The reason I find this a problem is when you get them up there too early then first off you have cats like Randy Orton. And no knock on Randy, I like him, but there is no reason he should be a 12 time champion! I can see multi time like 5 but 12??? And still kinda young and prolly got about another 6-10 years left in him if not more? It to me cheapens the talent if all of a sudden just for the sake of shooting up the ladder early, getting, and trading off champ reigns years later we have multiple guys who are 10+ times champs.

I'd say at this point just take their time with these so called "younger guys" make them actually build up and make the IC/US titles important and build a resume of sorts.

Also, give the guys that years ago thought of to be possible stars or at least loyal a fair shot at getting in that Main Even scene and stop sabotaging or giving up on them. When Truth went heel and challenged, they should really went full in with that, maybe give Kofi a true shot since they claim they really like him and he's important to he company, do something serious with Swagger other than getting squashed by Rusev, basically..... Reward these guys that have been dedicated vs hotshot other talent.

They should really go back to the path of talent going through all or some of the lower titles before getting a world title shot vs just coming in, squashing a few peeps, winning a few feuds, then contending and winning titles and gimmick ppv matches
 

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Dudes are acting like they didn't see Benoit and Eddie do this to Brock at NWO 04 and Survivor Series 03. Bryan was basically dominating Kane all year before WM and basically beat the shyt out of the Big Show in several matches, as heel, in early 2012.


True

But this ain't 04 or a Brock who was essentially younger and greener vs some well seasoned veterans.

This is a more older and meaner and more vicious and more stronger and season Brock.

Ok Bryan beat Kane! That cool, but so did Xpac..... And Big Show? Didn't they make a lot of those matches out to be "fluke" wins?

I get that Bryan is "capable" of beating bigger opponents, but of we are digging in memory bank he is also capable of getting squashed and destroy ala a lot of his matches with Sheamus
 

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Lesnar won bigger matches back then...Cena is no Rock and Taker vs Lesnar was another war that put Lesnar over huge. Beating Cena is no big deal because he was never Attitude Era level and fans don't respect him. Bryan hasn't been beatable since turning face except for him putting over Wyatt, if we want to go by booking. He never quits and it takes conspiracies and set ups to pin him.

Plus...no one beat him for the title.
 

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X pac? Lol..He beat Kane with like 4 guys laying him out..like how Punk beat Ryback two weeks before facing Rock.

Bryan kicked Kane's ass from the opening bell...lol
 

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X pac? Lol..He beat Kane with like 4 guys laying him out..like how Punk beat Ryback two weeks before facing Rock.

Bryan kicked Kane's ass from the opening bell...lol

Lol.... I could've sworn he beat Kane clean a few times in their feud..... I don't know.... Maybe your wrestling memory is better than mine. Y'all cats be remember clearly match by match on the 638th ep of Raw back in 2002 on April 23. Prolly can describe what happened at 9:48pm and itish.... Lol
 

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The belt should have never been placed on Lesnar. They should have used him just as they used Taker and brought him out just a little more than once a year. Dude could have been a beast regardless and just put the beats on people from time to time because he was bored. Brock vs whoever doesn't need the belt because he sells tickets regardless. Right now they have to have a younger talent beat him because Rock doing it don't mean because he's another part time talent.

:camby: best plan ever was putting it on Brock. Cant have a beast walking around not caring about the belt. Plus champion shouldnt be wrestling on free tv, want to see the champ pony up.
 

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:camby: best plan ever was putting it on Brock. Cant have a beast walking around not caring about the belt. Plus champion shouldnt be wrestling on free tv, want to see the champ pony up.


Cena's era cheapened the belt. I remember when Rock and Austin were champs.... They barely had title matches on RAW, hell they rarely even wrestled...... Austin would come to the ring, do a promo.... Be seen throughout the show and end with whooping someone's ass or stunners.

Hell even HHH barely wrestled every RAW. I agree, champs should just only defend on PPV's and wrestle very sparely so they don't get stale and so I would want to buy a ppv...... Or atleast spend $9.99
 

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At this juncture, I would have Brock vs Bryan(if healthy enough to go) & Rock vs Reigns at Mania.
You get one shot at this and I don't believe Reigns is ready to carry the strap, and I definitely don't believe that fans are going to accept him going over Lesnar at this stage.
If they could book Brock another six months after Mania, perhaps Roman could be ready to step into that role a year from now at Summerslam, but I just don't think it's going to pan out with the way Reigns is currently being billed.
I don't see fans backing him the way they're going to need them to.
I AM happy that they're seriously acknowledging that they need to move on from Super Cena.
 
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Outwrestle? Like put him in holds and locks??? That would be a bad idea for Bryan.... Cuz that calls for getting close to Brock and the moments he does he would be punished severely.

Imagine you play wrestling with a 2nd grader and he puts you in a headlock on the ground..... You would just simply stand up. Now what if they grab your arm? You would just overpower them. Similar thing with Brock..... He is unadvantagely so much stronger.

Bryan would have to gamble with a strike and move match and hope Brock makes a mistake (ala they are outside and Brock puts him on his shoulder to ram him in the ring post and DB slides off and makes Brock ram his head long enough to daze him..... Then get Brock in the ring and hit him with the knee)

Though we all know Brock will just kick out :skip:

It's scripted, breh.
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Honestly have D-Bry come back to win the rumble to face Brock at WM makes more sense. I like Reigns but he needs more feuds and an expansion of his moveset before he main events a mania. Plus you can easily set up a D-Bry vs Rollins feuds afterwards after Rollins cashes in on a exausted beat up D-Bry leading up to Summerslam In Ny/Nj
Daniel Bryan might need neck surgery that will keep him out until next September
 
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