Report: American Education Isn't Mediocre—It's Deeply Unequal (Among States)

[ill]

Home schooling is not always the best option as the person teaching you may be a complete retard in themselves. You will also most likely grow up to be a socially awkward person and social skills go a long way in the real world. You can't expect to make connections and networks if you do not put yourself out in the public sphere.

 

[DEAD7]

Hes saying children should go work jobs in factories if they arent interested in school.

I am actually...

can u elaborate?

I dont think middle school, and high school age children should have to be in school if they dont want to.

Lets look at the big picture here(in regards to the graphs specifically). If you force kids that have no interest into the school system, what effect do you think this is going to have on overall testing scores?
Exactly what we are seeing right... not couple that with the negative effect these bad seeds have on our best and brightest who want to be in school, and want to learn, and the case for compulsory education is weak at best.

The majority of these youths would be better served going to a trade school, rather then being forced to attend high school.

IMHO we place too much emphasis on the troubled teens and not the teens that will be shaping our future.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I am actually...

I dont think middle school, and high school age children should have to be in school if they dont want to.

Lets look at the big picture here(in regards to the graphs specifically). If you force kids that have no interest into the school system, what effect do you think this is going to have on overall testing scores?
Exactly what we are seeing right... not couple that with the negative effect these bad seeds have on our best and brightest who want to be in school, and want to learn, and the case for compulsory education is weak at best.

The majority of these youths would be better served going to a trade school, rather then being forced to attend high school.

IMHO we place too much emphasis on the troubled teens and not the teens that will be shaping our future.

This is the libertarian future brehs; ignore the people with troubles in their life, accelerate only the best of the best, and leave everyone else in the bushes.

Survival of the fittest, right?

 

[Wild self]

Not necessarily.


This actually speaks more to the issue in a roundabout way. Americans are obsessed with numbers and standardized tests, so teachers are not encouraged to be flexible and creative in teaching their students how to learn. They are not adapting to their students the way the teachers in Finland are for example. The irony, is that most of the research and data Finland is using to be creative comes from the United States. But the point is, when someone is home-schooled, a parent is almost necessarily going to modify their teaching methods to help their child understand. That is the utmost flexibility.

I would not sacrifice the sociological benefits of a proper school environment for home-schooling. But given the fact that most schools don't, and aren't allowed to operate in a proper manner, I can completely see the logic in home-schooling.

Standardized testing is a cancer upon creativity and upon innovation.

 

[DEAD7]

This is the libertarian future brehs; ignore the people with troubles in their life, accelerate only the best of the best, and leave everyone else in the bushes.

Survival of the fittest, right?

Ah, my favorite fallacy.
It assumes because I(or anyone else) do not want government doing something, I am against whatever it is, being done altogether.

But if this is what it takes to stick up for the best and brightest in our ridiculously mismanaged education system, ill be that.

 

[Blackking]

I am just fukking

Dead ur tripping.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Ah, my favorite fallacy.
It assumes because I(or anyone else) do not want government doing something, I am against whatever it is, being done altogether.

But if this is what it takes to stick up for the best and brightest in our ridiculously mismanaged education system, ill be that.

You just advocated for child labor over education, breh. You've gone off the libertard deep end.

 

[DEAD7]

I am just fukking

Dead ur tripping.

How so? Any child that want to attend school should be able, i'm talking specifically about kids who do not? and disrupt the learning of others?

Lets hear the case for them?

 

[DEAD7]

You just advocated for child labor over education, breh. You've gone off the libertard deep end.

teenage labor I specified middle -high school.

... and to be honest, I find them working favorable to congregating on street corners and killing each other the way they do now...


edit: @ libitard deep end

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

teenage labor I specified middle -high school.

... and to be honest, I find them working favorable to congregating on street corners and killing each other the way they do now...

edit: @ libitard deep end

Advocate for disadvantaged children spending the formative years of their life on unskilled labor as the world transitions toward more and more automated solutions for unskilled labor with every passing day, brehs.


Teens are not adults, and are not responsible actors.

You said MIDDLE SCHOOLERS should have the ability to choose what they should do with their lives

 

[Blackking]

How so? Any child that want to attend school should be able, i'm talking specifically about kids who do not? and disrupt the learning of others?

Lets hear the case for them?

Children especially very young children will avoid school in mass if they had the choice. HS students make crazy and rushed decisions. Even the most basic education in America provides basic knowledge and make the person > most of the kids their age in the world. Plus the experience of going to school should be positive and the undocumented benefits are worth it.

Most importantly.... You can't argue in favor of poor and lower middle class not going to school... because what they get out of it = what they need for advancement in social classes, even if they fail. The streets offer little of value when not combined with education....

Plus kids aren't disrupted. We all went to school, some of the quietest, loudest, nerdiest, most popular, and fattest kids did well. Kids who do well do well because they either have unusually good self motivation.... or they are encouraged by environment.

Your focus should be on WHY we aren't doing better with early childhood education. A good start there makes the overall experience better. and y aren't you writing in red?? Y did you start writing in this gay ass blue.

 

[ELITE]

this guy @DEAD7
either has me or

...one of my HL faves

 

[DEAD7]

1-Children especially very young children will avoid school in mass if they had the choice.
2- and y aren't you writing in red??
3- Y did you start writing in this gay ass blue.

1- So basically you are using the state to compensate for bad parents, rather than placing the failure squarely where it belongs, on the parents. every part of your argument hinges on what "the child" wants, or would want to do... parents are non existent inthis outlook and a reason for the overall decline of education IMHO.
They way we are helping is hurting
2-

3- Midnight theme users couldnt see the dark blue

 

[DEAD7]

You said MIDDLE SCHOOLERS should have the ability to choose what they should do with their lives

Again parents dont exist?

Liberals really do advocate for a nanny state to take the place of parents

This shyt is wild...

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Again parents dont exist?

Liberals really do advocate for a nanny state to take the place of parents

This shyt is wild...

So you're saying that PARENTS should have the ability to decide whether their children should work or get schooling

Did you also ignore what I said about the futility of training a labor force without skills