Reparations need to be THE issue for African Americans by the 2018/2020 elections

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Joined in 2012. With only 97 post to include a negative rep of 990

Nikka you been coming here to only make troll post for four years :laff:
Nah breh. I don't live on the internet forums crying and whining about white people all day.

And anytime I post I post my thoughts about the circle whining yall do about white ppl in here so often. Not trolling.

It wasn't like this in the SOHH forums (where I posted more often) where every single thread someone is crying and whining about white ppl, slavery, racism, etc....

Yall dudes are clowns to me man for real.
 

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Where is my money?
 

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great thread

This is the only thing that could save America in the long term

It would truly allow healing, take the stigma off of Black Americans , and finally have + sign attached to us for being black in this country.

Looking through history this is the only thing that could truly repair America. This country would be unstoppable with White & Black Americans as a force together.
 

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Four Eras of Slavery, for the Benefit of Corporations

First Era: Before Emancipation

Prior to the Civil War, King Cotton was the rallying cry for the South. With cotton accounting for 60 percent of all U.S. exports, and 75 percent of all the cotton purchased by Great Britain, slaves were needed more than ever. African-Americans in tens of thousands were herded to the deep south, chained neck to neck as they became the hapless tools of industry.


By 1840 there were more millionaires along the Mississippi River than throughout the rest of the nation. Cotton was more valuable than all other U.S. commodities combined. In this "great laboratory of American capitalism" slaves were the most valuable property, and that meant big business for the slave traders, even in the North, as the Fugitive Slave Act legitimatized capture and transport to the South.

Cotton drove the textile industry in the northern states. In 1860, New England had over half of the manufacturing operations, and consumed two-thirds of all the cotton used in U.S. mills. Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts called it "a conspiracy of the lords of the loom and the lords of the lash."

Before the start of the Civil War, the mayor of New York City sought independence from the Union in order to continue its lucrative trading with the South.

Otherindustriesflourishedas well, through the predecessors of companies that still exist and thrive today. The Norfolk Southern Railroad leased slaves for one-year terms of hard labor. The parent company of USA Today had links to the slave trade. Insurance companies such as Aetna issued policies protecting slaves as property. Many Wall Street firms, who held slave auctions outside their doors, had their beginnings in the cotton trade. Lehman Brothers, which began investing in 1850, founded the New York Cotton Exchange in 1870. The predecessors of JP Morgan/Chase got their start with loans to slave owners, at times with enslaved Africans as collateral. In 2005 JP Morgan apologized for its predecessors' slave trading activities in Louisiana, and Bank of America and Wachovia also apologized for their early involvement with slave trading.


But But Slavery happened so long it don't mean anything now, why can't you get over it. It doesn't affect anything......
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Seems like every time I school these cacs you come right behind and bring in the hard truths of what I was saying. :salute::salute::salute:
 

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40 percent out of 100 sum will be more than 25 percent out of 100 sum.

What you are doing is taking the percentages and applying it to the number of black/white people which isn't relative to what I am saying.

40 percent of white people will always more than 40 percent of black people.

At the end of the day, the NUMBER of people is what matters most. Because the more people that use welfare means more tax dollars being used. So in this case, more white people use tax payer dollars than black people when it comes to welfare.
No, that is not how it works.. It's expected for the majority to be the highest total. You look at percentages

If 40% of recipients are white, and 25% are black, but there are 4 times the amount of whites as blacks in this country, what does that tell you?

Also, why did you post 2013 stats

2016 stats

38.8% recipients of welfare are white
39.8% recipients of welfare are black
 

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Let me ask a serious question.

It seems that the chinese and jewish reparations were given almost immediately or shortly after.

If african americans were to get reparations, how would the dispersement happen? Would you add a new tax for it or take it out of the current income tax funds?

Also, would an Ethiopian American get one? How about a second generation Nigerian American. Both african american but neither was a descendant of the trans-atlantic slave trade.

How about caribbeans? Someone of jamaican or haitian descent who has lived in NYC since the 60s? Jamaica was colonized by Great Britain right? Should a jamaican descendant in NYC get reparations? Haitians were the first independent black nation in the western hemisphere. Would they get reparations?

What about mixed kids? Would they get 1/2? (ill-timed joke but I know you see what I'm getting at.)

This all sounds good. But let's be reality.

It's not that difficult. If you're family are descendants of AMERICAN slavery, then the AMERICAN government should give those people reparations. My family is Jamaican, and the Jamaican government is fighting for reparations from Britain.

When it comes to black people, all of a sudden people want to get real silly like there aren't volumes upon volumes of slave roles showing who was owned by who. I agree 100% that African Americans deserve reparations for slavery even though I won't receive a penny of that money. They are owed for 400 years of free labor and centuries of inhumane treatment from the US government, even if it means that my taxes would go up to pay for it.
 

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not going to happend and if it did a lot of black people here are not properly equipped to deal with a sudden large inflow of cash. most of that money would get wasted on bull shyt and it would only give racist more ammo to say look we told y'all nikkas ain't shyt.
 

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No, that is not how it works.. It's expected for the majority to be the highest total. You look at percentages

If 40% of recipients are white, and 25% are black, but there are 4 times the amount of whites as blacks in this country, what does that tell you?

Also, why did you post 2013 stats

2016 stats

38.8% recipients of welfare are white
39.8% recipients of welfare are black
its 40 percent of all people on welfare.

It doesn't matter if there are more cacs off welfare than blacks, the fact remains that if you took 100 people out of the number of people on welfare, 40 of those people will be white, while only 25 will be black.

What you are doing is then comparing the number of people who are not on welfare which isn't what I am fukking talking about.

Stop trying to twist shyt I took 2013 because I felt like it, the numbers will still be simular. do you thick 2-3 years will show blacks at being over 40 percent of welfare users? lol

You are a liar. We are only two months into 2016. Taxes are even in for you to have stats for 2016 welfare.
 
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Seems like every time I school these cacs you come right behind and bring in the hard truths of what I was saying. :salute::salute::salute:

Reparations might no be a "realistic" goal. But I'll be damned if some white troll gonna come in here and act like reparations shouldn't be considered or as if Slavery was some rinky dink institution that only made a few Southern Whites rich. The American slave trade was the seed that blossomed and turned America into the worlds first Super power.
 

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Breh you do realize the US is trillions in debt right? They have no money to give is in the first place. Secondly blacks literally 30 years out of slavery were able to built one of the most successful neighborhoods in the country(Greenwood, OK aka black wall street) WITHOUT reparations. There were more black wall streets but jealous whites destroyed them :francis:. If blacks literally a couple decades out of one of the worst events in world history can create successful neighborhoods, we modern day blacks can too.

The problem is the wealth that was destroyed over the decades that those cities would have produced for Black Americans. The other problem is the continued destruction of Black self worth in this country. Reparations is the only thing that could solve that.
 

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I was thinking about this subject not too long ago and I came up with something that I think is fair in terms of reparations. First, we would need to establish a separate bank that would house the trust funds and our own institution that would help us to fund business initiatives. Anyway here is my list...

1. Housing voucher up to $500,000. (Voucher amount depends on income that is sufficient enough to afford property taxes of the real estate in question)
2. Free Healthcare from birth until death.
3. Free education voucher for life (Includes Bachelors, Masters, and PH.D.)
4. Trust fund worth ($5,000,000) that is given to all African Americans age 25 or older. If the person dies before the age of 25 the fund can only be assigned or transferred to the spouse, dependent, next of kin or if none of the above, the money is immediately placed back in an interest bearing account to be distributed to another African American individual or family.

I was with you until the 4th one :russ:

Good luck. Bring it down to $100,000 per person and it might sound more realistic. And even then multiplied by 40 million people it's a large sum.
 

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Who Gets Food Stamps? White People, Mostly

Who Gets Food Stamps? White People, Mostly
02/28/2015 07:30 am ET | Updated Feb 28, 2015
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WASHINGTON -- Gene Alday, a Republican member of the Mississippi state legislature, apologized last week for telling a reporter that all the African-Americans in his hometown of Walls, Mississippi, are unemployed and on food stamps.

"I come from a town where all the blacks are getting food stamps and what I call 'welfare crazy checks,'" Alday said to a reporter for The Clarion-Ledger, a Mississippi newspaper, earlier this month. "They don't work."

Nationally, most of the people who receive benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program are white. According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.

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In the two congressional districts that overlap Alday's state legislature district, more African-Americans than whites receive food stamps, according to USDA data.

Twenty-three million households and 47 million Americans received benefits on an average month in 2013; enrollment declined slightly to 22 million households and 46 million individuals in 2014. Three-quarters of those households included a child, an elderly person or someone with a disability. The average monthly benefit per household was $274 in 2013 and $256 last year.

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Republicans are conducting a review of nutrition assistance with an eye toward figuring out how to nudge more people into the workforce. In recent years Republicans have lamented that a growing share of recipients are able-bodied adults without children -- a group that made up 10.2 percent of beneficiaries in 2011, up from 6.6 percent before the onset of the Great Recession in 2007. (The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that 1 million people will be kicked off the rolls by next year as states reimpose time limits on childless, non-disabled adults.)

Nearly one-third of food stamp beneficiaries lived in a household where at least one member had some earned income in 2013. Different states have different eligibility rules for the program, but federal law puts the upper income limit at 200 percent of the poverty line, currently $20,090 for a family of three. Many SNAP recipients qualify based on their participation in another means-tested program, such as Medicaid or Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

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